Posted on 10/21/2009 1:09:52 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
"The evolutionary lie is so pointedly antithetical to Christian truth that it would seem unthinkable for evangelical Christians to compromise with evolutionary science in any degree. But during the past century and a half of evolutionary propaganda, evolutionists have had remarkable success in getting evangelicals to meet them halfway. Remarkably, many modern evangelicals have already been convinced that the Genesis account of creation is not a true historical record. Thus they have not only capitulated to evolutionary doctrine at its starting point, but they have also embraced a view that undermines the authority of Scripture at its starting point.
Dr. John MacArthur, Keynote Speaker from The Battle for the Beginning
Schedule and Speakers...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
Of course, the origin of sickness, disease, evil and death is also explained in Genesis. That is why God the Son came to die for our sins, to save us from the second death, which, according to the Bible, is infinitely worse than the first.
AIDS is explained in Genesis? I am not following.
Read Romans 1. Beyond that, let’s leave AIDS for the AIDS threads, shall we.
Romans1 is about AIDS? I definitely would like to read more. It is a fascinating topic. Most Freepers foolishly believe it is caused by HIV.
Like I said, save the AIDS debate for the AIDS threads.
OK, OK dont get so touchy, I just asked a question.
How about the evolution of AIDS?
How about evolving yourself off this thread.
Haha. That was funny.
"Remarkably, many modern evangelicals have already been convinced that the Genesis account of creation is not a true historical record."
Remarkably, many modern scientists have already been convinced that the Genesis account of creation is a fair allegorical record of early cosmological events.
As has been said, many times before, "Let there be Light" is a clear analog for "The Big Bang".
Many scientists are quite comfortable with letting Genesis be Genesis, and letting Science be Science. There is no reason for this deliberate baiting of traps to catch wayward travelers who may be imprudently "embrac(ing) a view that undermines the authority of Scripture at its starting point."
The "Authority of Scripture" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.
Kind of like all those silly freepers who think pneumonia is caused by influenza or MRSA is caused by staphylococcus. When will people ever learn. Silly freepers with their silly science.
To you, maybe. But not to the millions of Christians that DO believe the earth is billions of years old. Sorta makes you choke up?
My favorite part of the ICR promotional ad that GGG feels is necessary on FR is that the keynote speaker is “ the author of more than twelve dozen books, including his newest releases, The Truth War and A Tale of Two Sons.”
The guy has written over 144 books?! Holy crap.
Could be.
For instance, this writer seems downright opposed:
Pastor John F. MacArthur is a dangerous man doctrinally, and a false prophet. Some people will argue that Christians ought to be working together instead of against each other; however, that mentality is exactly how the Devil succeeds at removing the old landmarks. Things are not always as they seem. Much sinful compromise is justified under the falsehood of unity. Romans 16:17 states, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." MacArthur's teachings are certainly offensive to the gift of eternal life and the simplicity of God's salvation.Whos a poor FReeper to believe?
In Christianity, a believer's salvation is rooted in the love and mercy of an awesome God, who offers salvation as a free gift paid for by Jesus' precious blood (1st Peter 1:18,19); BUT in Islam, a Muslim's salvation is rooted in self-righteousness to appease Allah's wrath. John MacArthur has perverted the simplicity of the Gospel, by requiring a holy life as a final step to complete salvation. MacArthur has effectively turned salvation into a lifelong process. How is this not works salvation? There is no simpler picture of salvation than a gift. Romans 5:15 even calls salvation a "free gift." If I offered you a gift; but then required you to do something for years to come to obtain it, would that truly be a gift? No way! As simple as this truth is, tens-of-millions of people all across the world have been deceived by Satan into thinking that one's eternal salvation is CONDITIONED upon the life that they live. Shame on you Mr. MacArthur! And shame on you foolish preachers who unquestioningly support him. I realize that John MacArthur has produced some excellent study materials on various issues, such as the evils of alcohol, et cetera; however, the Jehovah's Witness cult also produces some of the best literature exposing the sinful world that I've ever read. This does not justify their hellish religion! And neither does John MacArthur's good teachings qualify his damnable heresies. There is no matter any more critical than the issue of salvation.
In John MacArthur's sermons and books, he woefully contradicts himself at times concerning certain fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith. Another such area is that of the Blood of Jesus. I've had several web visitors write to me, and tell me to look at the following web link, featuring a letter written by John MacArthur to his constituents in 1988, where he attempts to defend his heresy on the blood...It would appear some Christians with infallible knowledge of the Bible and Gods Mind are at odds with other Christians with infallible knowledge of the Bible and Gods Mind. Of course, no one would have the bad taste to believe that your infallible knowledge of the Bible and Gods Mind might be considered in error, you know, by one of those people who no doubt incorrectly considers him/her/itself to have infallible knowledge of the Bible and Gods Mind.http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/articles/blood.htm
Ironically, the very letter that John MacArthur uses to justify his heresy on the blood, condemns him! Here are the very words of John MacArthur, from the above article (close to the bottom of his own letter):
"It is not the actual liquid that cleanses us from our sins, but the work of redemption Christ accomplished in pouring it out." -Dr. John MacArthur
What blasphemy!!! John MacArthur accuses Bob Jones university of starting a smear campaign against him; however, MacArthur's own words stand in testimony against him. This has nothing to do with Bob Jones, or anyone else. This has to do with the heresy which John MacArthur, himself, teaches concerning the precious blood of Jesus Christ. The Word of God clearly states in 1st Peter 1:18-19 that it is the blood of Jesus Christ which saves us (see also 1st John 1:7; Colossians 1:14 and Hebrews 9:12 in the King James Bible).
It seems that deep within John MacArthur recognizes that what he is saying is Biblically and practically flawed and so he knowingly or unknowingly contradicts himself. Either way, MacArthur is teaching damnable doctrines and needs to be exposed for the false teacher he is...So before you serve up Dr. MacArthur as the last word on science, much less the Bible, would you mind clearing up this minor doctrinal dispute?
Are you a Christian, Gumlegs? Meaning, do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?
Also, how much do you know about the person who wrote all those things about John MacArthur?
What difference does that make? Just state who’s right and why.
Your Honor, I move that the last questions be stricken from the record as irrelevant.
I’ll check back in the morning. It’s late here.
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