Posted on 10/14/2009 1:04:01 PM PDT by Maceman
Salt water as the ultimate fuel.
Most of the salt just stays behind. A small amount would come out as bubbles popped and go into the flame, turning it a nice yellow. I imagine it would just drift into the air and fall out as fine salt dust.
He was having fun at everyone else’s expense.
Is great for a laugh.
Let’s review the Laws of Thermodynamics, shall we?
1. You can’t win.
2. You can’t break even.
3. You can’t get out of the game.
This is true, of course. But it might be possible to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen utilitlizing sunlight as an energy source in some practical way. (I didn't watch the video.)
ML/NJ
Don’t get to invested in this. It was done as a fun well done hoax and is not real.
According to this site:
“Another problem to be overcome from burning salt water is the liberation of toxic chlorine (from the Cl of NaCl/salt). “
Of course, it also says: “They subsequently quietly reported that they surpassed 100% efficiency, which would mean that the system is somehow harnessing environmental energy such as from the zero point or some other yet-to-be discovered phenomenon. “
Yeah, just as an aside, we found that the laws of thermodynamics don’t apply. This would only completely and profoundly revolutionize the lives of just about everyone in the world and every generation after, but it’s kind of a “BTW” item.
I don’t remember seeing that. I had a busy year. When you say ‘atomic level’ do you mean nuclear? Regular chemical reactions are on the atomic level.
“My bet is that RF is far less efficient at breaking the hydrogen-oxygen bond, and the net energy deficit is even worse. “
I think it depends on the frequency. If you could manage to find a resonant frequency for the bonds....
Ted Danson will not be happpy.
I’m not guessing, I know it does. I’ve never been a radio engineer, but I was a satellite communications tech for the Air Force. The video shows arcing while the fire is burning. That shows that the power was still on for the RF generator. I want to see the video show what happens when they turn the power off for the that RF generator.
I’m not guessing, I know it does. I’ve never been a radio engineer, but I was a satellite communications tech for the Air Force. The video shows arcing while the fire is burning. That shows that the power was still on for the RF generator. I want to see the video show what happens when they turn the power off for the that RF generator.
Interesting. I know I only hit “post” once.
The space shuttle uses pure hydrogen rocket fuel.
It does not use water to create hydrogen on demand.
If it did, it would never get off the ground.
Are you talking about these guys?
http://www.blacklightpower.com/
What happens to the salt?
You find out when you follow the links to the story of the UC Santa Cruz researcher. The salt ‘stays behind’, e.g., in the original container. The products of combustion of hydrogen and oxygen outside the container is heat and ... pure water. So the process desalinizes the water. And since no carbon is released in the process, well, no carbon imprint.
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I would imagine a lot of the Cl would recombine with the Na, but if there is some free Cl there is also some free Na, which is not too great to inhale, either.
The carbon is released at the power plant that generates the electrical energy to run the RF generator that liberates the H and O. There IS a carbon footprint. (Not that is matters, except for the nuts/phonies.)
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