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The Most Amazing Invention
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Posted on 10/14/2009 1:04:01 PM PDT by Maceman

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To: chrisser

Most of the salt just stays behind. A small amount would come out as bubbles popped and go into the flame, turning it a nice yellow. I imagine it would just drift into the air and fall out as fine salt dust.


41 posted on 10/14/2009 1:43:47 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Maceman
Just so you all know, I know of this, it was a great hoax and this guy admitted to it. This is not a real thing, so don't pass it on to friends in Email and end up looking stupid OK.

He was having fun at everyone else’s expense.
Is great for a laugh.

42 posted on 10/14/2009 1:45:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Right Wing Assault; org.whodat

Let’s review the Laws of Thermodynamics, shall we?

1. You can’t win.
2. You can’t break even.
3. You can’t get out of the game.


43 posted on 10/14/2009 1:46:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: counterpunch
The laws of physics say it is not possible.

This is true, of course. But it might be possible to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen utilitlizing sunlight as an energy source in some practical way. (I didn't watch the video.)

ML/NJ

44 posted on 10/14/2009 1:46:24 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: chrisser

Don’t get to invested in this. It was done as a fun well done hoax and is not real.


45 posted on 10/14/2009 1:47:20 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

According to this site:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:John_Kanzius_Produces_Hydrogen_from_Salt_Water_Using_Radio_Waves

“Another problem to be overcome from burning salt water is the liberation of toxic chlorine (from the Cl of NaCl/salt). “

Of course, it also says: “They subsequently quietly reported that they surpassed 100% efficiency, which would mean that the system is somehow harnessing environmental energy such as from the zero point or some other yet-to-be discovered phenomenon. “

Yeah, just as an aside, we found that the laws of thermodynamics don’t apply. This would only completely and profoundly revolutionize the lives of just about everyone in the world and every generation after, but it’s kind of a “BTW” item.


46 posted on 10/14/2009 1:47:32 PM PDT by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: pburgh01

I don’t remember seeing that. I had a busy year. When you say ‘atomic level’ do you mean nuclear? Regular chemical reactions are on the atomic level.


47 posted on 10/14/2009 1:48:02 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“My bet is that RF is far less efficient at breaking the hydrogen-oxygen bond, and the net energy deficit is even worse. “

I think it depends on the frequency. If you could manage to find a resonant frequency for the bonds....


48 posted on 10/14/2009 1:49:27 PM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: ctdonath2
LOL, about covers it!!
49 posted on 10/14/2009 1:53:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat
It's been a long time since those power mechanics courses.
50 posted on 10/14/2009 1:54:23 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Lx

Ted Danson will not be happpy.


51 posted on 10/14/2009 2:10:30 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: OldDeckHand
“I’m guessing it takes considerable energy to run whatever RF generator he’s using - probably much more energy than he’s seeing in output energy from his saltwater reaction.”

I’m not guessing, I know it does. I’ve never been a radio engineer, but I was a satellite communications tech for the Air Force. The video shows arcing while the fire is burning. That shows that the power was still on for the RF generator. I want to see the video show what happens when they turn the power off for the that RF generator.

52 posted on 10/14/2009 2:12:24 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: OldDeckHand
“I’m guessing it takes considerable energy to run whatever RF generator he’s using - probably much more energy than he’s seeing in output energy from his saltwater reaction.”

I’m not guessing, I know it does. I’ve never been a radio engineer, but I was a satellite communications tech for the Air Force. The video shows arcing while the fire is burning. That shows that the power was still on for the RF generator. I want to see the video show what happens when they turn the power off for the that RF generator.

53 posted on 10/14/2009 2:12:26 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Old Student

Interesting. I know I only hit “post” once.


54 posted on 10/14/2009 2:16:42 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: JudgemAll

The space shuttle uses pure hydrogen rocket fuel.
It does not use water to create hydrogen on demand.
If it did, it would never get off the ground.


55 posted on 10/14/2009 2:19:15 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: pburgh01

Are you talking about these guys?
http://www.blacklightpower.com/


56 posted on 10/14/2009 3:08:17 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: chrisser

What happens to the salt?

You find out when you follow the links to the story of the UC Santa Cruz researcher. The salt ‘stays behind’, e.g., in the original container. The products of combustion of hydrogen and oxygen outside the container is heat and ... pure water. So the process desalinizes the water. And since no carbon is released in the process, well, no carbon imprint.


57 posted on 10/14/2009 3:13:09 PM PDT by RideForever
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To: theKid51; ourusa; Apple Blossom

ping


58 posted on 10/14/2009 3:15:14 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: chrisser

I would imagine a lot of the Cl would recombine with the Na, but if there is some free Cl there is also some free Na, which is not too great to inhale, either.


59 posted on 10/14/2009 4:18:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: RideForever
And since no carbon is released in the process, well, no carbon imprint.

The carbon is released at the power plant that generates the electrical energy to run the RF generator that liberates the H and O. There IS a carbon footprint. (Not that is matters, except for the nuts/phonies.)

60 posted on 10/14/2009 4:22:09 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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