Posted on 10/07/2009 11:23:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
By Alan Keyes
October 7, 2009
Loyal to Liberty
I just received a call from Orly Taitz, my attorney in the case seeking proof of Obama's eligibility for the Office of President of the United States. Judge Carter has released a statement declaring that the dates he set for the hearing and trial on the eligibility issue are confirmed, and it will move forward as scheduled. Apparently he was not swayed by the Obama lawyer's arguments.
No, I doubt it’d make any more sense that the rest of it.
His father's name is listed on the short-form COLB. So again, why do you need the long form, exactly?
“If the statement were intended to apply to the entire section, it would have said so. (”This section applies ...”) It doesn’t. It expressly limits the retroactive effect to the PROVISO within the section.”
Why does the effective date of the 1986 amendment say this, keeping in mind that Obamas mother and father were never legally married, as he already had a wife in Kenya....thus, she was unmarried. :
“the provisions of section 1401(g) of this title shall apply to a child born out of wedlock on or after January 13, 1941, and before December 24, 1952, as of the date of birth, if the paternity of such child is established at any time while such child is under the age of twenty-one years by legitimation. (c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.”
I agree that if Obama were an honorable man, he'd take the trouble to get a long-form BC, even though it is a hassle and not necessary to prove his eligibility.
Unfortunately, being an honorable man who cares about the sanctity of the office is not an eligibility requirement, and Obama is most decidedly not an honorable man.
Of course, since you don't trust the word of government bureaucrats, I seriously doubt you or any of your ilk would be satisfied even if he did the above.
Good then I won’t have to waste my time on you.
In my heart of hearts I know you know better, that you know just what a disaster this man has planned for this nation based upon the advisers and mentors that have shaped his entire life.
Each and every one of them has as a core belief the destruction of this nation far worse than any of the neo-confederate you and I have battled with in this forum, and yet you still pretend that what is coming isn’t part of a scheme none of these people is shy about talking about.
So that's pretty much what the birther case boils down to: an allegation of fraud on behalf of his mother. An allegation for which there is zero evidence.
You admitted on another thread the COLB is unauthenticated and your previous statements saying it was were lies. Why do you lie so often? Is it the only way to forward your hardcore anti-American agenda?
Some of us believe that Obama is a disaster for America, but also believe that (1) he is probably a natural born citizen, and (2) that, whether he is or isn't, no court will ever address that issue.
The document wasn't authenticated, but the facts contained therein have been.
your previous statements saying it was were lies.
I please point out to me exactly where I lied.
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What a stupid question. Since they registered his birth, it follows the proof was acceptable to the state. |
Rather merely by the local Registrar:
For real ... backdating in government is done more often than you may know
The COLB is a barely a legal document, by Hawaii’s own definition it only reflect the latest version of what is in their records and does not included earlier information they might have had.
For instance if Obama had been adopted the COLB would not include that information, if Obama is now his real name, that information would not be on the COLB as well.
And in an odd twist of fate, if Obama had been born a female, his COLB would not show that as well if he had taken the proper steps to change the information after gender reassignment.
The reason the COLB doesn’t have the weight of the original is that it is just a facsimile of the most recent information added to Hawaii’s files.
Who are among the first "Birther"???
They were both silenced with the race card effectively, and so has the whole establishment in the other two branches and all the SoS as well!!!
There's no such thing as a "barely" legal document. Either it is legal or not. Period.
by Hawaii’s own definition it only reflect the latest version of what is in their records and does not included earlier information they might have had.
The same would be true of the long-form Birth Certificate you birthers keep demanding.
For instance if Obama had been adopted the COLB would not include that information, if Obama is now his real name, that information would not be on the COLB as well.
Yes, but the place of birth would not have changed, and that's all that is relevant to whether he is eligible or not.
The reason the COLB doesn’t have the weight of the original
You are wrong. For the purposes of proving place of birth, it has exactly the same weight.
It would be a fraud, and probably why these records are sealed also. Then you throw multiple SS numbers into the mix!!!
Perhaps, but it is not relevant to his eligibility to be president.
If you called NS a good troll you are very wrong.
I see. And what evidence do you have that a the date filed on a Hawaiian COLB can be backdated?
I see you have never worked for any government in a clerical position...of course it can be back dated, the more difficult liniting factor may be the BC number of the original.
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