Posted on 09/28/2009 8:29:31 AM PDT by reaganaut1
One wonders if they could do something else that would have an effect and still pass Constitutional muster. Say a 50% gross receipts tax on any Federal monies paid to health care providers.
Just a shout out to the group. Before I reached the end of this article “blood was shooting out of my eyes”! A nod to Glenn Beck for that perfect descriptor. These “journalists” just can not seem to help themselves. Other’s thoughts?
I don’t understand the outcry against mandatory health insurance, most states have that in place for car insurance.
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Lets see ...
I am forced to buy health insurance - but cannot afford a private plan, so the Feds dump me into the “pool” (co-op, exchange, public option, whatever) where it costs me little money ...
Then, I get sick with some REALLY BAD disease - and some Fed consults the Obama Bible of Health Care and deems me NOT ELIGIBLE for treatment because of my age, cost, etc. ...
SO, the Feds take my money and DO NOT give me treatment ...
The healthcare bill mandates that I CANNOT be denied coverage - but ONLY the coverage the Feds allow - meanwhile taking the money I HAVE to put into the pool ...
Why do I feel like I’m in that episode of M*A*S*H* when Hawkeye and Trapper John try to get an incubator ...
The Quarter Master checks the equipment inventory and agrees that an incubator request seems to be in order, but he then checks the BEL (Basic Equipment List) and decides that the 4077th ALREADY has ALL the equipment that is authorized ...
Hawkeye then says that “Its not like we’re asking for a pizza oven” ...
The Quarter Master replies “Oh, I can let you have that - just use the standard S stroke 1798 and write in ‘Pizza’ where it says ‘Machine Gun’” ...
You are not mandated to own a car or to even drive for that matter. Once you get out on the road, your actions have the potential to cause death on a public road.
Bring it on! Start fining people, then try to haul them off to jail for not paying it.
you’ll be required to get it or be fined $3800 plus the possibility of a year in jail. Ain’t that somethin’?
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And if you don’t pay the $3800 - it increases to $25K or a year in jail (Baucus bill) ...
I believe the local sheriff has a duty to prevent you from being hauled off by the feds in the event that state law contradicts federal law.
Most sheriffs don’t like that duty.
Damn! I under-fined everybody.
Here’s something interesting.
Because you don’t have to buy a car.
Because liability car insurance is only required against harm to others’ property or body.
The problem comes from the current government requirement that ERs bust provide emergency care to everybody who arrives in the ER, without taking into consideration ability to pay for the treatment.
Now, if we changed the law to make this optional on the hospitals' part, so that if you're brought in broken and bleeding from a traffic accident and they see that you have no insurance, then they can toss your butt out the back alley and let you die there, then that's fine.
Until that point, we have the situation where you may find yourself imposing a cost on a third party (the hospital) that may be beyond your ability to pay. Hospitals in "inner city" areas are closing due to too much uncompensated expense for treating uninsured people.
“ERs bust” should have read “ERs MUST”
Blue Dogs are only slightly less liberal for the most part since Pelosi took over as speaker and started cracking her whip in 2008. Even the more conservative Blue Dogs went left after she took over.
You are so right in your assessment of Dems.
You also aren’t forced to have a car, so you aren’t being forced to buy the insurance — it’s a condition of driving a car on publicly-owned, publicly-funded roads. You can have a cr and drive it around your own property without insurance. Also, only liability insurance is required — you aren’t required to insure yourself or your car, only to insure for libaility to others for damage you may cause with your car. And if you’ve made a habit of driving safely and responsibly, basic liability insurance is very cheap. I pay about $280/year for liability insurance. If this mandatory health insurance crap goes into effect, I’ll be forced to pay rates for comprehensive health care based on the average cost of everyone’s care — face-stuffers, smokers, meth addicts, habitual drunk drivers, etc.
Poor guy. Talk about the stick in the hornet’s nest...
I wouldn’t be so harsh on him. There are a lot of people out there, including conservatives, who don’t understand this part of it.
Some of the responses here are excellent and educational...I think DonaldC was asking a valid question, and these responses are great for those of us who want to go out and anti-evangelize the mandatory health care promotion!
(don’t take it personally, DonaldC...)
a small but growing group of lawmakers are pressing for state constitutional amendments that would outlaw a crucial element of the health care plans under discussion in Washington: the requirement that everyone buy insurance or pay a penalty.
I have no doubt many such connections could be made with odinga's associates and associations. And if it weren't for the near complete and total blackout of his past, I suspect we would find odinga has a checkered history also. That is, MORE checkered than what we already know of, which is troubling enough.
I think the real connection is Indonesia. Obama and the Clintons both work for Soros and they all 3 have connections to Indonesia. He probably was born in Kenya; but the real connection is Indonesia.
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