Posted on 09/26/2009 1:34:33 PM PDT by IbJensen
You put it quite rightly. People seem to think that God is some sort of genie who will grant them wishes and they abandon God when they don’t get what they want.
Because Nature abhors vacuum. People that believe nothing will not defend their heritage.
Do you really think that the combined resources of the Christendom were insufficient to prevent the fall of Constantinople in 1453? Of course not. But why would those that sacked the City just a few years before defend it now?
People that see this development as paving away for Sharia do have reasons to worry.
That does not sound right to me.
Not believing in God is not incompatible with believing in, and defending, freedom.
I thought liberal humanistic environMENTALism was a religion. I guess the nut bags don’t know that.
Obama's no "muslim mole". He's a communist mole. Like every other communist, he hasn't a religious bone in his body. That is, unless one considers marxism a religion of sorts.
Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...
Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.
There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."
Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
"Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary 'mole,' not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through."
-People's Weekly World (PWW), official newspaper of the Communist Party, USA..."
http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/12302/1/405
AIM article: Obama’s Communist Mentor
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
I watched the church of my youth (Corpus Christi of Rochester, NY) get infiltrated by gays and women demanding “priesthood”. It took a long while until the Bishop did anything about it. Too long. I can be Religious on my own. I try to do good and watch over my family and friends.
Well, as a full gospel man, I believe that the main problem in the church is the preaching of a watered down gospel has led us into a state where the power of the Holy Spirit is greatly diminished because of unbelief or a refusal to submit to God’s authority. Signs and wonders still are done in confirmation of solid preaching, just not in very many main stream churches. If that word is watered, then the faith of the listener is not going to be built up either.
One way to be certain whether you are on the right path or not is to look back and see if there is fruit from your past walk. Jesus said that you would be able to tell the tree by its fruit. I ask myself daily if I am trying to become more like Jesus or not. Sadly, some days the answer is "No", but a "disciple" must always strive to become like the "Master" or that person is not a "follower" except in name; in our case the title often lied about is "Christian".
Guess I just don’t understand Christians who think I’m bound for hell if I don’t show up to sing with them on a Sunday morning. God made me a loner.
“The new report says those who don’t claim any religious affiliation are more likely to be male, young,GAY living in the West and politically independent (STUPID).
HOPE I FIXED IT!
More interesting comments on this news item:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2348804/posts
and
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2345402/posts
Not being the thread police - I never object to duplicate threads (on interesting topics) since I usually miss the first post (or two).
I do NOT think you will become Muslim, although you sound like one of the ignorant, conformist idiots who would. You are a product of the cultural Marxism that infested the US from Europe during the 1900's.
Atheism has been the cause of far more millions of peoples being killed, so your point is bogus. Cultural Marxism led to Mussolini's Italy, Lenin's (Stalin's)Russia, Mao's China and Hitler's Germany. They alone account for hundreds of millions of people's deaths and that only happened after all Christian thought was vilified and demeaned, blamed for every evil, then persecuted and all semblance of Christian philosophy was anihilated. Only with the destruction of Judeo-Christian philosophy will the people fall for the illogical utopia of Marxism.
Christianity teaches in the intrinsic value of every human being, where Marxism will kill off whoever "they" (read that as god) deem not "worthy" of life because they are a drain on the collective. (Whoever is in power will also destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideas so there is NO FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!!!! Which means NO FREEDOM to raise your own children if they decide you can have any.) As the Pope has said, the central ideal of Marxism is extremely evil.
Christianity is the most perfect ideology in the history of man. Compare the inventions,the progress, the freedoms of women, men and children that is the sole result of the Judeo-Christian paradigm--the most perfect ideology in the history of all cultures. There has been no equivalent in the history of the world.
To believe in God is far more pragmatic than believing in atheism-- that everything came from NOTHING. There can be NO reason in that type of thinking, so I can understand someone who can't process thought, should fall for the Marxist Obambi cr*p and all the disinformation put out by the MSM.
Many of American's churches have been de-Christianized (actually calling sin, good, as was done in Europe a hundred years ago). Many schools have become atheist indoctrination centers who teach revisionist history, so that the children will be ignorant of the genius of our Christian heritage and the genius of our Founding Fathers who recognized the BEST IDEAS of WESTERN CIVILIZATION (far superior to any Eastern civilization). No people are flawless, because it is understood that humans are not perfect. But the idea was to strive for perfection--for the Truth-- and that that would create the most possible utopian society for the most people here on earth. So far, facts have proven that to be the case.
Without a group, no one would survive. Most of human history of mankind has been one group conquering another group. Groups were necessary for survival and the division of labor.
True the worship of God need not be in group form, but ideas do better in the marketplace. That is why the US was so superior to other countries. They had individualism, so people were not easily cowed into accepting others viewpoint, but they also had vibrant, strong churches and most people read the Bible.
Geography prevented a lot of people from belonging to a church, but those groups that did led to universities and hospitals and charities and schools, which enriched the society and made it a stronger and better place to live, not only for the less fortunate, but for the gifted. Society does affect the individuals and if individuals do not contribute or participate in the institutions of the society, then it becomes weak and is taken over by a more cohesive, dominate group with different ideas. We have been lucky in this country because of the Constitution and the respect for freedom of ideas.
No other place has been as free as this country, or as generous, and it is because of the Judeo-Christian paradigm that has existed here for several hundred years.
Cultural Marxism is trying to destroy Christianity because it was the main obstruction to their atheist totalitarianism and world government. The US would never have been the outstanding success that it was had it been founded by Marxists or Islamists.
My father was not a churchgoer, but his kindness and generosity was legendary in our old neighborhoold. I can’t believe that he would not have attained his salvation just because he didn’t go to church.
When the face of religion becomes scamartist evangelists, molesting priests, hateful prisspots, and antidarwin flatearth buffoons, you really can’t be surprised if people are pushed en masse away from religion.
fatnotlazy, pardon. Clicked the wrong button there. Response was intended for reply 1.
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