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Vikings 'were warned to avoid Scotland'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | September 20, 2009 | Telegraph News

Posted on 09/22/2009 7:10:57 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Vikings 'were warned to avoid Scotland'

Scotland is full of dangerous natives who speak an incomprehensible language and the is weather awful. That was the verdict of a series of 13th century Viking travel guides that warned voyagers to visit at their peril.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; scotland; vikings
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To: justa-hairyape

Well, if you’re true to your screen name and especially hirsute (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and a bit dark complected I’d lean toward the Pictish Nation.


101 posted on 09/23/2009 7:02:17 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Fred Hayek

It was “barbarians” in general that the Romans were worried about, but the fact remains that the real border with Scotland is not all that far North of what remains of Hadrian’s Wall. We can argue about who they were, but they sure came from the same territory.

I’m betting that some of the crazier Picts painted themselves blue too...


102 posted on 09/23/2009 7:02:29 PM PDT by Bean Counter (No, I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: madison10
They hold grudges do they........ I always thought I was Welsh but I guess I am a Scot.
103 posted on 09/23/2009 7:05:59 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: madison10
The blue dye probably had to do with widespread incidence of blue-blindness. Painting yourself blue makes you less visible to an enemy (provided, of course, he also suffers from the same problem).

Viagra can give you blue blindness BTW. No idea what those ol'boys in Scotland were using.

104 posted on 09/23/2009 7:07:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Xenalyte

I’m waiting for mine too! Waiting, waiting... expected arrival is the 29th. Jesuis prest. ;) I’m finishing A Breath of Snow and Ashes just to pass the time.


105 posted on 09/23/2009 7:44:15 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black.)
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To: Dysart

Screen name is sarcastic. Really white with little skin hair. The Pictish dark skin is a bit of a historical argument based on one Roman I believe who referred to them as dark. The Scottish people do not exhibit that trait, prior to the recent Muslim invasion anyway. Now the mother of the Dal Riada (Scoti) was according to legend an Egyptian Princess and she apparently was not all that dark skinned either.


106 posted on 09/23/2009 7:57:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: muawiyah
No idea what those ol'boys in Scotland were using.

The Scottish used the Woad Plant, while the Roman Julius Caesar thought the Picts used some type of metal. Here is some interesting info from Wikipedia.

Woad (or glastum) is the common name of the flowering plant Isatis tinctoria in the family Brassicaceae. It is commonly called dyer's woad, and sometimes incorrectly listed as Isatis indigotica (a newer and invalid name for the same plant). It is occasionally known as Asp of Jerusalem. Woad is also the name of a blue dye produced from the plant. Woad is pronounced /ˈwoʊd/, to rhyme with road.

In Europe, woad was the only source for blue dye available until the end of the sixteenth century when trade routes began bringing indigo from the far east.[citation needed]

The first archaeological finds of woad seeds date to the Neolithic and have been found in the French cave of l'Audoste, Bouches du Rhone (France). Named Färberwaid (Isatis tinctoria L.) or German Indigo of the plant family (Brassicaceae), in the Iron Age settlement of the Heuneburg, Germany, impressions of the seeds have been found on pottery.

Julius Caesar tells us (in De Bello Gallico) that the Britanni used to colour their bodies blue with vitrum, a word that roughly translates to "glass". While many have assumed vitrum or vitro refers to woad, and this misconception was probably repeated for political reasons,[1] it is probable that Caesar was describing some form of copper- or iron-based pigment.[1] The northern inhabitants of Britain came to be known as Picts (Picti), which means "painted ones" in Latin, due to these accounts of them painting or tattooing their bodies.

In Viking age levels at York, a dye shop with remains of both woad and madder dating from the tenth century have been excavated.

107 posted on 09/23/2009 8:11:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Markos33

Those are my McNutts! lol But...when the jobs dried up, my grandfather moved to Indiana (as did my father’s family) and my father joined the Navy. I managed to be born on Guam. I’ve never lived within 200 miles of a genuine mountain. :(


108 posted on 09/23/2009 8:11:36 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Looks like painting yourself blue also had some health benefits. From Wikipedia.

Woad and health

Recently, scientists have discovered woad might be used to prevent cancer, having more than 20 times the amount of glucobrassicin contained in broccoli.[7] Young leaves when damaged can produce more glucobrassicin, up to 65 times as much.[8]

Indigowoad Root (Chinese: 板藍根; pinyin: bǎn lán gēn) is a traditional Chinese medicine herb that comes from the roots of woad, but often incorrectly listed under the synonymic name, Isatis indigotica. It is also known as Radix isatidis. The herb is cultivated in various regions of northern China, namely Hebei, Beijing, Heilongjiang, Henan, Jiangsu, and Gansu. The roots are harvested during the autumn and dried. The dried root is then processed into granules, which are most commonly consumed dissolved in hot water or tea. The product, called Banlangen Keli, is very popular throughout China, and used to remove toxic heat, soothe sore throat and to treat influenza, measles, mumps, syphilis, or scarlet fever. It is also used for pharyngitis, laryngitis, erysipelas, and carbuncle, and to prevent hepatitis A, epidemic meningitis, cancer and inflammation. Possible minor side effects include allergic reactions and dizziness; only large dosages or long term usage can be toxic to the kidneys. These treatments have not generally been evaluated clinically.

109 posted on 09/23/2009 8:23:49 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Texas Eagle

“I had to look up the word “haggis” in a dictionary. Here’s what I found:”

Actually, you are close but not quite. The word is actually “haggard”, from which comes old hag.


110 posted on 09/23/2009 9:14:45 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Arec Barrwin; SunkenCiv

Re: Vikings being scared of Scots, Sorta reminds me of the story of Black Bart, a bad man in the old West.

He rides into a cattle drive camp one night, stalks over to the fire and picks up the coffee pot full of boiling coffee and drinks it down without stopping. The cowboys are stunned.

Then he grabs the pot of beans, bubbling on the fire, picks it up and slurps down the whole pot. Cowboys cower togethter.

Bart steps back up on his horse and says, “Boys, I hate to eat and run, but there’s a mean sumbitch on my trail.”


111 posted on 09/23/2009 9:32:50 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Fred Hayek

I’m mostly Saxon descended...at least in my surname.

You Scots smell bad and were wuttle

/s


112 posted on 09/23/2009 11:13:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama, you suck Bro and we are kicking your butt for now anyhow)
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To: Fred Hayek; muawiyah

My wife’s folks are Scots....clan even!

Keith (Harvey surname)

they have a red plaid....she even has some ...with a bear claw or something

we have a home at Grnadfather Mt, when they have the games she flushes


113 posted on 09/23/2009 11:17:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama, you suck Bro and we are kicking your butt for now anyhow)
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To: vetvetdoug
...haggis

Being adventurous, I had to try haggis when we went to Scotland. It's actually very good, at least at the restaurant where I ate some.

114 posted on 09/24/2009 3:24:37 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SunkenCiv

I like Scotland. They make great whiskey.


115 posted on 09/24/2009 3:56:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Dumpster Baby

Ladies from Hell

term coined by German soldiers during WWI


116 posted on 09/24/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by Charlespg (The Mainstream media is the enemy of democracy destroy the mainstream media)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Joining most of y’all in embracing both my Scottish and Viking heritages.

No wonder we’re so cantankerous!

117 posted on 09/24/2009 6:16:25 PM PDT by bannie
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To: TheOldLady

I claymore related.


118 posted on 09/24/2009 7:41:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: wildbill

LOL!


119 posted on 09/24/2009 7:41:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bannie
Here is a decent documentary on the Viking accomplishments. Surprised to discover they even attacked Constantinople.

Vikings: Journey to New Worlds

FYI- Someone also needs to tell our resident Viking that he needs to drop the horns. The Germanic Teutonic Knights made the horn helmet ornaments famous.

120 posted on 09/24/2009 9:32:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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