Posted on 09/15/2009 6:20:51 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
In the recent dialogue between David Frum and David Horowitz about the place of Glenn Beck and other bold talkers in the Conservative Movement Frum shot out a claim which threw Horowitz off guard:
Third – how do we define “our side”? Horowitz harshly condemns Obama appointee Van Jones. Van Jones was eventually forced to resign not because of any of the allegations Glenn Beck hurled at him, but because the Gateway Pundit blog unearthed evidence that Van Jones had consorted with 9/11 denialists. So that’s the other side, right? Except… the American politician who most closely associates with 9/11 denialists is Congressman and former presidential candidate Ron Paul. And who acts as Paul’s chief TV enthusiast and publicist? Glenn Beck of course.Horowitz was puzzled by Frum's charge that Beck embraced the embarrassing Paul:
Ron Paul is a crackpot, a conspiracy nut and a public menace. His crank views of the economy have a lot of Republicans snookered enough to ignore the fact that he is an anti-Semite and an America-hater — fundamentally at odds with America’s role in the world as the guardian of freedom. I have to confess that I am not familiar with Beck’s promotion of Paul. If David wants to engage this I would have to review Beck’s statements about Paul first.So let's review Beck's statements on Paul a bit and see if Frum was correct in grouping Beck with the kooks of the Whack-Job Right.
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How can Beck be doing the same but attack JM at the same time?
Show us where he said that. You can't and won't. You just throw made-up BS out there like all the other frauds.
Paul would cut off aid to countries that want to harm Palestine. Bush didn't. Who is the real anti-Israel politician there?
You're being so purposely wrong and disingenuous in your desperate bid to prove that Ron Paul wants Israel nuked, that I have to ask:
Are you Charles Johnson?
Glenn also said Ron Paul is “Wrong on so many things” which he is.
Seriously. That article is a left-wing hit piece.
When was that? My guess is not recently.
“My guess is not recently.”
I listen to the radio progam, not the TV show. On the radio show Glenn used to say it all the time during the primary season, in particular when talking about Paul’s foreign policy. More recently, RP comes up during discussions about our current domestic move to socialism, economic and big government matters, so disagreements about foreign policy are not mentioned.
I have trouble understanding why so many reasonable conservatives treat RP like the plague. I would take RP over 100 percent of Democrats and over 50 percent of Republicans in the House.
He said it right in that video at the beginning! lol
I used to contribute to Horowitz’ organizations, and was on their mailing list for years — even convinced others to join.
But when Horowitz went after Ron Paul with slime like this, he lost me — for good.
As much as I disagree with Representative Paul on some issues the only crackpot clown in the mix here is David Frum.
Well they are both Mormons but I have never see or heard Beck back anyone.
Great if you guys love Rep Paul but don’t gloss over his serious flaws.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/18/martin/index.html
Paul, who is more of a libertarian than a Republican, was trying to offer some perspective on the pitfalls of an interventionist policy by the American government in the affairs of the Middle East and other countries.
“Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years,” he said.
Those were Palestinians, not Israelis. Best learn what your talking about if you are going to post here.
“”What do you think about the Israelis that were found celebrating the collapse of the WTC””
“Those were Palestinians, not Israelis. Best learn what your talking about if you are going to post here.”
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You can search “Israelis celebrating 911” on Youtube yourself if you are so inclined though I suspect not.
But let me offer this.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html
Netanyahuy himself said that 911 “was good for Israel”.
Tell me, to which country do you pledge allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the United States of America and I dont think 911 was good for Israel - I disagree with Netanyahu.
Do you agree with him?
Those are Palestinians not Israelis in your video you ignorant clod.
In the future, try actually reading what you are posting Your claims are complete divorced from the facts of your VERY OWN LINKS.
So either bother to actually READ your own links and LEARN the facts or shut up.
There is NO excuse of your level of fundamental ignorance of simple facts.
Will you be offering anything of substance to the discussion - or just ad hominems?
“Those are Palestinians not Israelis in your video you ignorant clod.”
I did not post any videos.
I think if I gave you a book, you would eat it.
I dont think you would know what to do with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FILBXO9Uujk&feature=related
Here - the last time I did someone else’s homework was 50 years ago.
It quite clearly confirms that Israel agents were caught celebrating and detained for several weeks by the FBI before being deported on immigration charges.
Thats the way I like it - dont F with the USA
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