Posted on 09/10/2009 9:42:35 PM PDT by moonpie57
I just talked to Orly:
She has 2 good news items that she is very busy with right now:
1. Judge Carter is ‘giving her expedited discovery - immediately’.
2. Judge Land will allow her to present before the court in GA. She is leaving now to fly to GA to appear before Judge Land at the Federal Building in Columbus, GA at 2:00 pm tomorrow (Friday, 9/11/09).
She would like as many military supporters to be there as possible. I called Carl Swensson (RiseUpForAmerica.com), and he will see what he can do. If you have any contacts there, please advise them.
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And Savage
Yup. Obama has an internet war room with volunteer and paid trolls aimed at FR.
You have a familiar stench about you, noob.
Wish I got paid to FReep! :)
Basic HTML works on FR.
Trolls are different than Freepers. We think and analyze. They post what they’re told.
You are a troll.
I apologize for posting the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. I won’t intrude again.
The discussion is better served when it’s not based on facts but instead on untried theories by untrained laymen.
There's a reason for that. Info at this link: http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=2966
And interview links at this post by Hypo.
Funny, several longtime freepers have pointed out the mismatch between the headline and the reality. That’s what we do here. Post and comment and get to the bottom of things.
You, OTOH, are a troll.
“The longer they delay, obstruct , appeal, as judge Carter has said, it only gives Orly’s complaint more credence.”
It cuts two ways: the longer the delay, the more the defense can argue that the issue is moot. I’m not saying they’re right, but this kind of argument has weight in the legal system: rather than do a disruptive, extreme act of adjudicating the president invalid after he has served most of his term, a judge might say that it would be pointless at that time to do anything.
Maybe I don’t know what Orly is trying to prove.
The question is whether Obama meets the eligibility requirements of the Constitution. It’s not an action against Obama in tort, right?
The problem I have with the birthers is not the fundamental question of Obama’s eligibility. I find that somewhat interesting in an angel on the head of the pins type of way. It’s a part of the Constitution that has simply never ajudicated. So, I would find it intriguing in the same way I would find a case based on privileges and immunities intriguing.
The problem I have is that birthers - and their attorney - don’t seem to know how to approach this question. Orly is trying to turn this into some kind of weird quasi-criminal suit.
A. Judge Carter did not say that.
B. If Judge Carter did say that, Obama needs to file a motion for recuse immediately.
That statement would show that the judge is not impartial.
Since I don’t think Judge Carter is an idiot, I doubt he said that.
If I may attempt to answer for steviep96, they would not wait for the subpeona, but file the COLB to the court with an application to dismiss the case as moot since the COLB supposedly is sufficient to resolve the central issue of the case.
Just checking in this AM - note Pete’s ping list....
So the focus of the day is Taitz and not Berg who has another hearing in October.
I don’t think Judge Carter said it in so many words, but he may have implied that those who avoid adjudication of a question obviously fear the answer. If so, they lend credence to the case by showing that the question is based on real substance, at least by implication.
Thanks.
The issue being that the best evidence rule states - in essence - that you need an original document in order to admit evidence.
Rule 1002
To prove the content of a writing, recording, or photograph, the original writing, recording, or photograph is required, except as otherwise provided in these rules or by Act of Congress.
However, I think the COLB would be admissable under Rule 902 and Rule 1005.
Granted, I’ve never actually seen a hearing like this so I may be wrong.
Anyway, I think these rules would allow the COLB to be admitted and disqualify the alleged Kenyan Birth Certificate.
In fairness, I’ve lost track of who is filing what at this point. Is Berg even an attorney?
The only competent person I’ve seen in all of this is Kreep.
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