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Why I'm a Mormon Democrat
Patheos.com ^ | Sept. 1, 2009 | Boyd Peterson

Posted on 09/07/2009 11:23:19 AM PDT by Colofornian

When I was growing up in Utah, Calvin Rampton and Scott Matheson were our Governors, Frank Moss was one of our Senators, and Gunn McKay was our Congressman. All were Mormon Democrats. My father was a steelworker who believed that the Democrats were the party that ended the Depression, won the War, and fought for the rights of working people.

Evidently many Utah Mormons agreed with him. It was not until the mid- to late-1970s that the Democratic party fell out of favor among Utah Mormon voters. That shift resulted, I believe, because the public debate about morality became more narrowly focused on sexual issues like abortion. But the Mormon retreat from the Democratic party has been detrimental to both the party and the LDS Church. Furthermore, there are moral issues that, I believe, are better represented by the Democrats than by Republicans.

At election time each year, a Church statement of political neutrality is read in LDS congregations throughout the nation, which "affirms [the Church's] neutrality regarding political parties, platforms, and candidates." Importantly, it also stresses that, "principles compatible with the gospel may be found in various political parties." Implicit in this statement is the notion that gospel truth may be found in the Democratic party's platform.

In an interview in 1998, Elder Marlin Jensen, a Mormon Democrat, spoke of the need for political diversity in the Church. Jensen outlined three main concerns Church leaders have with the misconception that the Republican party is the Church party: First, the Church's reputation suffers with the waxing and waning tides of national political fortunes. "There is a feeling that even nationally as a church, it's not in our best interest to be known as a one-party church," stated Jensen.

The late Elder James E. Faust, also a Mormon Democrat and a counselor in the First Presidency, reiterated this point: "It is in the interest of the Church to have a two-party system . . . . Both locally and nationally, the interest of the Church and its members are served when we have two good men or women running on each ticket, and then no matter who is elected, we win."[1]

Second, Elder Jensen suggested that the overwhelming Republican affiliation of Mormons in Utah and throughout the intermountain West weakens the checks and balances of good democratic government. As Elder Jensen put it, "any time you don't have the dialogue and the give-and-take that the democratic process provides you're going to be poorer for it in the long run."

Third, Elder Jensen stressed that it would be "very healthy for the church -- particularly the Utah church" if the common misconception that one cannot be a good Mormon and a Democrat "could be obliterated." Elder Jensen continued, "everyone who is a good Latter-day Saint is going to have to pick and choose a little bit regardless of the party that they're in and that may be required a lot more in the future than it has in the past."[2]

Jensen's call for political diversity recognizes an important truth about political parties and public morality -- there are many moral issues and none of the political parties has a monopoly on them. "I am a Democrat," stated Senator Harry Reid, "because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it."

Like Reid, I believe that the Democratic party takes the strongest position on many moral issues. For example, King Benjamin's address in the Book of Mormon admonishes us to prioritize, "feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and administering to their relief, both spiritually and temporally, according to their wants" (Mosiah 4:26). I believe the Democratic party works harder to protect and defend these moral priorities.

Elder Faust stated that his reading of the Book of Mormon also influenced his political views: "I believe what is said in the Book of Mormon, that the Lord values all of his children equally -- black and white, bond and free, male and female, Jew and gentile." As a result, Elder Faust said, "I like to see all people enjoy every advantage, every blessing, every opportunity that comes to them by reason of citizenship."[3]

Furthermore, the LDS scriptures' call to educate ourselves, "to seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom, seek learning even by study and also by faith" (D&C 109:7), is, I believe, more constantly supported by the Democratic agenda. I also believe LDS scriptures' insistence that the world and all living things were created spiritually prior to their physical creation calls us to environmental stewardship, another moral issue defended more robustly by Democrats.

Finally, I am a Democrat because I believe LDS scripture and prophets have urged us to live within our means, to be fiscally responsible. Democrats believe we need to pay for any programs we create, and Democratic administrations have, since the Great Depression, consistently lowered deficit spending, while the Reagan and two Bush administrations have greatly increased it. Democrats have a strong record of fiscal responsibility.

Many Mormon Democrats like me are pro-life, and find no pressure to change that view. Senator Harry Reid once told how, when an abortion issue came up for a vote during his first year in the Senate, some senators were expressing to him the importance of his vote. Reid recalled how Senator Barbara Mikulski, "at that time the only woman in the Senate and one of the nation's feminist leaders, told everyone to leave me alone, my vote was a matter of character." Reid's pro-life stance in the Senate has not hurt his career -- in 2006 he became the Senate Majority Leader, the highest-ranking Mormon in Washington.

I believe Mormon Democrats can make a difference, not only like Reid in Washington, but in their own local party. I have witnessed first-hand how Mormon Democrats in Utah county have worked to make the county platform more in-line with LDS values.

Boyd Petersen is the Program Coordinator for Mormon Studies at Utah Valley University, the biographer of Mormon scholar Hugh Nibley, and a former candidate for the Utah State legislature.

[1] Quoted in James E. Bell, In the Strength of the Lord: The Life and Teachings of James E. Faust [Salt Lake: Deseret, 1999], 86.

[2] Dan Harrie, "LDS Official Calls for More Political Diversity," Salt Lake Tribune, 3 May 1998.

[3] Op. Cit., 86


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To: Zman516
I think the Mormon leaders who align themselves with RATs had better take notice that the RAT party today is not the Democrat Party of Frank Moss’s time. Back then they were still Americans. Now the RATs are openly Communist. BIG difference.

Absolutely on the money! No question about it.

61 posted on 09/07/2009 1:55:59 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Real Cowboys have a Kubota)
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To: MNJohnnie

Same to ya’! Hope all is well with you and the Mrs...


62 posted on 09/07/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Same to ya’! Hope all is well with you and the Mrs...


63 posted on 09/07/2009 1:57:51 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: Colofornian
Just some points:
Democrats were conservatives... that was when Mormons were Democrats.

IMHO as long as one of the tenets of the Democrat party is abortion, Men and Women of good moral character will oppose them on those grounds alone.

I have made no secret here that my dream team for 2012 would be Zell Miller and Sarah Palin. For those who don't know Zell is a Democrat who spoke at the 2004 GOP convention.

Zell Miller speech at 2004 Convention part #1
Zell Miller speech at 2004 Convention part #2
Zell Miller speech at 2004 Convention part #3
Zell Miller taking apart Chris Mathews on Hardball

My $.02
64 posted on 09/07/2009 2:01:31 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Colofornian

I’m sorry, but anybody who tries to make the government do the work of the Lord is NOT doing a good thing.

Democrats don’t espouse christian principles by having the government feed the poor; they interfere with God’s moral training of His people, who are supposed to see need and respond to it.

Democrats don’t want to have to respond to needs, so they want to tax other people and have government do it, so they can pretend they are righteous and exclude the lower class from their parties.


65 posted on 09/07/2009 2:02:24 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Clintonfatigued
Democrats believe we need to pay for any programs we create

Democrats believe that OTHER PEOPLE should pay for any program they create.

It is true that Democrats didn't have as much trouble running up the deficit, because they did raise taxes to force others to pay for the programs they used to buy the votes of the poor and weak-minded in this country.

66 posted on 09/07/2009 2:05:15 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Madly57
"Mormonism is heresy, plain and simple."

Spoken like every "christian" church since Jesus.

your post is Innocent of truth, plain and simple.
67 posted on 09/07/2009 2:06:29 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Colofornian

Utah hated the republicans because of Abraham Lincoln...

Let’s see how so called conservative Republican Utah has voted in the last 100 years...

1916 - Woodrow Wilson won in Utah in 1916.. Democrats took the Governorship and the US Senate

1924 - Democrat governor, No Senate race

1928 - Democrat governor, US Senator

Utah elected FDR 4 times...starting in 1932...

1932 - FDR for POTUS, Democrat governor, US Seantors,

1936 - FDR, Democrat governor,

1940 - FDR, Democrat governor, Democrat contol of the Utah legislature

1944 - FDR, Democrat governor, Democrat US Senator, Democrat control of the US Legislature

1948 - Harry Truman was the pick for Utah in 1948... Republican governor but controlling Democrat Legislature...

1956 - In 1956 a Democrat named Romney ran for governor...

1960 - Nixon just snuck past Democrat Kennedy for POTUS in Utah, Democrats continued their control of the Utah Legislature

1964 - Utah went with Johnson in 1964..Democrats won governor, US Senate

1968 - Democrat governor

1972 - Democrat governor

1976 - Carter had a good showing in 1976 but it was about
182,000 to Ford;s 336,000 votes.. Democrat governor,

!978 - Jimmy Earl Carter urges the Morg to change from their racist ways... Bad Karma..

1980 - Utah mormons thrashed those apostate Democrats

1980 - Big comeout for Republicans Reagan 440,000 votes to Carter’s 125,000 votes, EReagon won all 29 counties..Democrat governor but not by much, ..In the US Senaste the Republican won 438,000 votes to 150,000, Utah Legislature Republicans got 57 seats to 18 seats for the Democrats..

1984 - Utah mormons still holding a grudge against Democrats...

1984 - Reagan 470,000 to 155,000 for Democrat Mondale... Republican governor, Utah Legislature Republicans 61 seats Democrats 16 seats...State Senate 23 to 6...

1988 - Republican Bush 429,000 to 208,000 votes, Democrats shut out of everything

1992 - Clinton won the nation but not in Utah...only 25%.. the pther races were a turn around for the Democrats...

Since then both parties have been in and out...

Not because the Democrats have been forgiven...

But becaise more nonmormons who vote independant of a controlling religious institution have moved into Utah


68 posted on 09/07/2009 2:07:52 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

My grandmother was born into a Mormon family, though she later left the church, and was a Roosevelt Democrat until her last breath.


69 posted on 09/07/2009 2:07:56 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
This was because Jimmy carter was POTUS at the time and he pressured them to change their racist stance against blacks...

Hey Nana, still posting your beliefs as fact I see.

I'll pray for you tonight... God loves you.
70 posted on 09/07/2009 2:14:33 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Colofornian
Boyd Petersen is the Program Coordinator for Mormon Studies at Utah Valley University, the biographer of Mormon scholar Hugh Nibley, and a former candidate for the Utah State legislature.

Hugh Nibley was a Democrat, too.

71 posted on 09/07/2009 2:20:00 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ya know but in some funny way your arguments about abortion have some merit...

Mormons in Utah are more concerned about same sex marriage and gay rights amongst adults who can defend themselves and fight back than they are about the barbaric deaths of millions of unborn babies who are defenceless...

Please name the mormons who have fought as hard for the unborn as they have against the gays ???

Who march on January 22, who speak out publically against abortion, who have included pro-life heavily in their political platforms or have voted against abortion while they were in office...

Any ???

Is it a non-issue ???

During 2008 I was told by mormons that I was a “one issue” voter because I had pro-life at the top of my list when looking at the candidates...

Those same mormons were aggressively against the gays, but that was different...according to them..

As long as one was anti-gay, it was OK to be pro- abortion, or “choice” or newly “evolved” into the pro-life movement...

Onny being pro-life was considered to make one a “one issue” voter..

Of course their rhetoric was all wrapped up in idolization of Romney and his 40 years of abortion pushing...


72 posted on 09/07/2009 2:23:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian
You know, I think we tried that “let's ‘infect’ (in a good way) the corrup public school system by sending our children there approach.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No...Children should never be used for political purposes.

And...I am not talking about doing things in a “good” way. For instance, If the Dems are planning an event, the conservative mole can get the information out on the Internet. The conservative spy ( or mole) can leak e-mails and memos. They can post things anonymously on YouTube...etc. They can work with conservative organizations in a way that will fatally embarrass the Marxist organization.

Too many conservatives ( Christian government teachers are especially guilty) work for Marxist dominated organizations and then turn around and promote the godless Marxist cause. No, the purpose for joining these organizations is for laying figurative landmines, spying, and to direct the Marxist organization to ends that further the conservative cause. If the conservative isn't doing this, then the are working against conservatism, not for it.

Some organization might be open to reform. For instance, if we got enough conservatives on the boards of some foundations like the Ford Foundation or Annenburg Foundation, the boards of colleges and universities, we could do some real good.

Other institutions are fundamentally socialistic at their very core. Government schools are an example. These organizations can't be reformed. They must be eliminated. If a conservative is involved in an institution that is fundamentally socialistic, the constant goal before them is the complete disintegration of that institution.

73 posted on 09/07/2009 2:27:43 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: esarlls3

Now we get to some meat. King Benjamin, the Savior and other Christian leaders through the ages have decreed that Society has a responsibility to care for the less fortunate. It has never been stated that the State should confiscate from anyone to give to anyone else. This is an individual responsibility with individual accountability to the Savior. It’s fine to preach charity and promote charity but when you implement welfare funded by manditory takings it’s no longer charity. Not only does this destroy the agency of the ‘giver’ but it also denies him the blessings a charitable donation would ensue. Rather than producing empathy and love in both the giver and the recipient, you get distrust and resentment. Those are not gospel principles.
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Just WOW


74 posted on 09/07/2009 2:49:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bender2
I agree with you Bender. The lines have been clearly drawn. People need to quit pussy-footing around.

Frankly, I don't think there's a dime's worth of difference between the Donkeys and the Elephants these days, at least as concerns elected officials. People need to come down on the side of what is right and what is Constitutional. The two parties can both get lost, as far as I'm concerned anymore.

75 posted on 09/07/2009 3:34:43 PM PDT by Pablo64 (Political Correctness is a DISEASE. <==> TRUTH is the CURE.)
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To: Bender2

I’ve never read in either the New Testament or the Book of Mormon where Jesus advocated using the power of the State ( Roman legion and armed forces, courts, law enforcement with weapons) to implement or carry out his teachings.


76 posted on 09/07/2009 3:41:01 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: LtKerst

Excuse me? (and believe me, I’m being extremely charitable here)


77 posted on 09/07/2009 3:44:54 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Liberals wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face. They live in lies.


78 posted on 09/07/2009 6:56:17 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Colofornian
. My father was a steelworker who believed that the Democrats were the party that ended the Depression, won the War, and fought for the rights of working people.

Therein is the problem. The lies of his father used for indoctrination ultimately continue with his lies today.

79 posted on 09/08/2009 4:24:39 AM PDT by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: DelphiUser; Madly57
Madly57: "Mormonism is heresy, plain and simple."
DU: "Spoken like every "christian" church since Jesus".

Condemnation of Christianity by mormon leaders:
 
"Apostle George Q. Cannon (1827 - 1901):
 
"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon."
-    Apostle George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, p. 324


Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith (1876 - 1972):

"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." 
 Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, v. 3, p. 266

"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the ‘Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men."
-    Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, v. 3, p. 282

Apostle Bruce R. McConkie (1915 - 1985):

".the Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable, ...But with the Bible it was not and is not so....it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization [Christianity], founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was."

-    Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
-    Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

“... all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ.... in large part the worship of apostate Christendom is performed in ignorance, as much so as was the worship of the Athenians who bowed the Unknown Gods.”
-    Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 269, 374-375

Prophet Ezra Taft Benson (1899 - 1994):



"This is not just another Church. This is not just one of a family of Christian churches. This is the Church and kingdom of God, the only true Church upon the face of the earth..."     
-    Prophet Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 164-165

Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley (1910 -  ):

“We accept that as a statement which came to him [Joseph Smith's vision in which he was told all other religions were "abominations"], which is printed, of course, and published in his history as a statement. But we go forward with a friendly relationship, with a respect for people everywhere and with an effort to accept them as we meet them and, where opportunity exists, to talk with them and explain to them what we believe.... We don’t criticize them for what they believe. We accept the good that comes of that understanding which they have, but we feel we having something to offer beyond what they have.”
-    Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, interview with Richard Ostling, as quoted in Mormon America, by Richard and Joan Ostling, p. 323

“God is not at its head, making that church [i.e., Christianity] – following the appearance in it of Satan – no longer the church of God. To say that Satan sits in the place of God in Christianity after the time of the apostles is not to say that all that is in it is Satanic.”
-    Kent P. Jackson, “Early Signs of Apostasy,” Ensign, December 1984, p. 9

80 posted on 09/08/2009 7:45:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obama, the cow patty version of Midas. Everything he says is bull, everything he touches is crap.)
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