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1 posted on 09/06/2009 6:27:02 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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Sure, there is a provision in the bill for end-of-life counseling by doctors, but it does not establish "death panels."

I question whether or not the author has actually read Palin's post on Facebook.
2 posted on 09/06/2009 6:29:33 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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These aborted citizens are being replaced by illegal aliens.. en mass...
Both democrat and republican voters are aborting their parties to death..
3 posted on 09/06/2009 6:30:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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She’s not crazy.

They already have death panels in Oregon - if you are given bad odds, you don’t get treatment. You get a pill.

This author needs to read more and write less.


4 posted on 09/06/2009 6:30:32 PM PDT by carolina71
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To: smoothsailing
Crazy? She defeated the bill only using facebook.

What a maroon.

5 posted on 09/06/2009 6:33:17 PM PDT by Vision (Jesus- "Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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yeah, crazy like a fox. This guy gets it.


7 posted on 09/06/2009 6:33:47 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: smoothsailing
Sure, there is a provision in the bill for end-of-life counseling by doctors, but it does not establish "death panels." And yes, it does call for explanations of orders regarding life sustaining treatments, and why such orders might be beneficial to the individual and the individual's family, but there is no language in the bill mandating the individual's death.

Here we go again with the same talking points that have been refuted a million times.

I can't believe this crap is in the American Thinker.

10 posted on 09/06/2009 6:35:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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Hyperbole is an effective and acceptable tool of argument. The “death panels” reference was hyperbole; but just barely, unfortunately.


12 posted on 09/06/2009 6:39:04 PM PDT by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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Good article, the whole thing. :)


13 posted on 09/06/2009 6:39:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Despite the Hippocratic Oath that doctors supposedly take to "do no harm," a number of doctors participated in the study in the interest of medical research.

This is one of those cases I think of whenever I hear about " you can't legislate morality". The doctors had a MORAL obligation to treat those men whether or not they had a legal one. Now they would have a legal one. Is that legislating morality?

14 posted on 09/06/2009 6:39:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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Sarah Palin is not crazy.

She's not God either.

16 posted on 09/06/2009 6:40:40 PM PDT by EveningStar
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She' crazy like a fox.

GO SARAH GO!

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil" - Sarah Palin, August 8, 2009

"We face challenging times with some hell-bent on tearing down our nation by perpetuating pessimism and apologizing for America. They suggest that our best days were yesterdays. But how can this pessimism exist? Proof of our greatness and pride is all around us today. We produce proud and great volunteers who sacrifice everything for their country.

"We can resist enslavement to big central government that crushes hope and opportunity. We must be wary of government largesse. It doesn’t come free and often accepting it takes away everything that is free. Melting into Washington’s powerful and caretaking arms will only lead to suck away the incentive to work hard and chart our own course. This will only contribute to an unstable economy and dizzying national debt, and it will make us less free.

"We don’t have to feel that we must beg an allowance from Washington – except to beg the allowance to be self-determined.

"See, in order to be self-sufficient (we) must be allowed to develop, to drill and build and climb to fulfill our promise! We can not start believing that government is the answer. It can’t make you happy or healthy or wealthy or wise. What can? It is the wisdom of the people and our families and our small businesses and industrious individuals. And it is God’s grace helping those who help themselves." - Sarah Palin, July 26, 2009
SARAH'S FAREWELL SPEECH AS GOVERNOR - GREAT READ

Sarah has now initiated her brilliant flanking manuever against the left, the DNC, the MSM and the RINOs that has them all in a frenzy wondering what her next move will be and how it will be perceived...and has them frothing at the mouth in their efforts to discredit her.

Sarah will now get her book out, go on tour, give speeches and promote conservatie principles all over this country in the midst of the Obama administration disaster and gain great political capital in the process. Then she will support conservative candidates in 2010 and help them win, amassing much more political capital. She will then take all of that and make an awesome, stunning run for the Presidency in 2012.



MANY MORE STICKER DESIGNS HERE

"...like that grizzly guards her cubs, as a mother naturally guards her own. I will keep that vow wherever the road may lead." - Sarah Palin, July 26, 2009


SARAH PALIN STANDING IN THE BREACH


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

19 posted on 09/06/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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She’s saner than a lot of the people calling her crazy.


27 posted on 09/06/2009 6:51:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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Indirectly, he pointed out something that the medical community has tap danced around for years. The abandonment of the Hippocratic oath, or its debasement to an empty ritual, devoid of meaning.

Since the time of the fictional Dr. Frankenstein, medical ethics has been under attack. Today, a doctor will not be condemned for inhumanity and violating the cardinal rules of life, but be honored by his peers for breaching ethics in such an interesting way. Relativistic ethics on a par with journalistic ethics, meaning no ethics.

While the public are still shocked and horrified by the medical experiments conducted by the Nazis and Imperial Japanese war machine, or the Tuskegee experiment, the medical community is not. Unconcerned with life, and humanity, they hide behind science as justification for any barbarity.

For this reason, it is a reasonable question to ask if doctors are any longer able or willing to police their own ethics, or if a public agency should be able to intervene in their practices and tell them to discontinue a practice or experiment, because it has passed the boundaries the public is willing to tolerate.


30 posted on 09/06/2009 6:53:18 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Is Sarah Palin crazy?"

Like the fox (that she is).

Sarah's playing checkers while 0be's losing big time at chess.

31 posted on 09/06/2009 6:54:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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If she is crazy, so is Steve Marlsburg and NUMEROUS other conservative analysts who have stated the same thing.

The American Thinker needs a good laxative to clear his brains out.


34 posted on 09/06/2009 6:56:14 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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Like a fox... and just she is one. Brains, looks, and political acumen. That leaves the left out in the cold and screaming their heads off...heh.


38 posted on 09/06/2009 7:05:39 PM PDT by Deagle
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I like the efficiency of private insurance companies better. whenever they think that their bottom line is being threatened they'll just cancel the patients policy.

You see no panel needed, just a faceless bean-counter deciding your fate.

40 posted on 09/06/2009 7:09:58 PM PDT by Tempest (Placing Americans people before foreign corporate interest)
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Professor=dumb bastard!


41 posted on 09/06/2009 7:10:37 PM PDT by dalereed
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I was tempted, after reading the first few lines, to write off the writer as another anti-Palin and respond accordingly. After reading his editorial, it's clear to me he understands.
43 posted on 09/06/2009 7:11:04 PM PDT by GBA
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Sure, there is a provision in the bill for end-of-life counseling by doctors, but it does not establish “death panels.”

Of course it doesn’t...but they’ve convinced a few Americans that removal of the end-of-life counseling provision was the end to the death panels. One never had anything to do with the other. Now, when the panel decides to ration your care, there won’t be any free end-of-life counseling.


48 posted on 09/06/2009 7:21:29 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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