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Texas DNA exonerees find prosperity after prison
Yahoo! ^ | 9/04/2009 | JEFF CARLTON

Posted on 09/04/2009 1:26:31 PM PDT by BJClinton

Exonerees will get $80,000 for each year they spent behind bars. The compensation also includes lifetime annuity payments that for most of the wrongly convicted are worth between $40,000 and $50,000 a year — making it by far the nation's most generous package.

Dallas County alone has 21 cases in which a judge overturned guilty verdicts based on DNA evidence, though prosecutors plan to retry one of those.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dna; exonerated; innocenceproject
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It should be pointed out 85% or so of these cases the rapist was identified by the victim. Still, if they were wrongfully convicted they deserve the payout.
1 posted on 09/04/2009 1:26:31 PM PDT by BJClinton
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"It should be pointed out 85% or so of these cases the rapist was identified by the victim."

Which reinforces the theory that eyewitness testimony is about as unreliable as it comes.

2 posted on 09/04/2009 1:28:30 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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What was their income BEFORE they were convicted?

I am not convinced that this is appropriate.

As a taxpayer, I resent mistakes I had NO part in and tired of subsidizing others for ANY reason beyond my control.

3 posted on 09/04/2009 1:29:13 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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“Which reinforces the theory that eyewitness testimony is about as unreliable as it comes.”

Not necessarily.

When it comes to RACE, then there are often problems identifying someone of a DIFFERENT race. When it is the SAME RACE, then there is less of a problem. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!

4 posted on 09/04/2009 1:30:45 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
I am not convinced that this is appropriate.

So how much do you think 26 years in prison is worth?

5 posted on 09/04/2009 1:31:39 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: nmh

‘As a taxpayer, I resent mistakes I had NO part in and tired of subsidizing others for ANY reason beyond my control. ‘

Sure, but locking someone away[Innocent], depriving them of their freedoms and liberty is tyranny. What, should happen? Nothing?


6 posted on 09/04/2009 1:32:23 PM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: BJClinton

Will taxpayers be reimbursed for the “innocent” that were convicted? If not, WHY NOT? It is the taxpayer that keeps getting stuck with the bill! THIS IS WRONG. Make the attorney, personally pay for it or those that railroaded these “innocent” people.

I highly doubt that those convicted would have earned 85K or even 50K a year. To incarcerate people costs MORE than that.

Where’s the refund for the tax payer?

Do you think money grows on trees?


7 posted on 09/04/2009 1:33:26 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I totally agree.


8 posted on 09/04/2009 1:34:14 PM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: nmh
What was their income BEFORE they were convicted?

What was your income 20+ years ago? Less than it is now? It should be. You've had 20+ years to develop your job skills and work your way up the income ladder. These guys didn't and after wrongfully spending 20+ years behind bars, they've been institutionalized and are all but unemployable in everything but entry-level jobs.

They deserve it. And they're receiving these generous payoffs because Texas realizes that a jury in any wrongful punishment suit would likely be even more generous. Pay a little now or a lot later.

9 posted on 09/04/2009 1:35:21 PM PDT by Drew68
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“So how much do you think 26 years in prison is worth?”

It will depend on the INDIVIDUAL.

I don't go along with the GROUP mentality.

I also believe those that PUT THEM IN PRISON, WRONGLY should compensate them based on what they earned PRIOR to being wrongly imprisoned. THAT would be s personal determent to attorneys and company who like to wrongly incarcerate people. I would really like to get back to INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY.

BTW, how do YOU justify that arbitrary amount?

10 posted on 09/04/2009 1:35:45 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Vote yourself a tax increase and take your refund out of it.

If you had every official fiscally responsible for errors, no one would wokk in government. Maybe not a bad idea afterall. LOL!

Some of these cases are best effort with what is known at the time. We are the government and we are responsible.

11 posted on 09/04/2009 1:38:18 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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BTW, how do YOU justify that arbitrary amount?

It's cheaper than the multi-million dollar Judgement any reasonable Jury on the planet would hand down. That's why.

12 posted on 09/04/2009 1:38:55 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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“What was your income 20+ years ago? Less than it is now? It should be. You've had 20+ years to develop your job skills and work your way up the income ladder. These guys didn't and after wrongfully spending 20+ years behind bars, they've been institutionalized and are all but unemployable in everything but entry-level jobs.”

Welcome to the real world! Jobs come and go and income goes up and down. In prison they are able to get their GED or college education. Did any of these people take that route? All these things enter into it. Do you ever think things through? Or just have a knee jerk reaction based on feeling bad for them?

“They deserve it. And they're receiving these generous payoffs because Texas realizes that a jury in any wrongful punishment suit would likely be even more generous. Pay a little now or a lot later.”

They deserve something but lump sum payments aren't appropriate. It must be on an individual basis. When their record is expunged, there is no stigma.

13 posted on 09/04/2009 1:39:05 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

There is far more lost when your lose your freedom, than simply the amount of your paycheck.

In fact, I value my freedom FAR higher than my earning power as someone’s employee.

I would argue for a million a year, plus whatever their earnings were.


14 posted on 09/04/2009 1:40:06 PM PDT by dman4384
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To: nmh
I also believe those that PUT THEM IN PRISON, WRONGLY should compensate them

Who do you start with? The Judge, the jury, the DA, the Cop who arrested him, the attorney who failed to defend him?

BTW, how do YOU justify that arbitrary amount?

The article sites one man who was released after 24 years and received $1.9 million. That works out to about $9.00 an hour. Sounds cheap to me.

15 posted on 09/04/2009 1:41:16 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: nmh
"I am not convinced that this is appropriate."

I suspect if you were wrongfully incarcerated for a few years, you'd be convinced.

16 posted on 09/04/2009 1:41:55 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: nmh
When it comes to RACE, then there are often problems identifying someone of a DIFFERENT race. When it is the SAME RACE, then there is less of a problem.

Not true. Also, police have been known to "suggest" a perp to the victim. There was a case I remember from tv not too long ago where it seems that the guy convicted of rape had managed to avoid some drug charges, and the cops were just finding a way to put him in jail.

17 posted on 09/04/2009 1:42:47 PM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: nufsed
Ar some point, we really have to DEMAND fiscal responsibility on an INDIVIDUAL basis. Yes, that sounds absurd under Obama ... but we can't keep throwing money around like drunken sailors.

Yes, these people were wronged. To discourage that, giving them a “bail out” won't stop those that take this route. By making those personally responsible for the wrong they did, WILL discourage them from railroading others. How else will people be forced to be accountable if we shove the bill to Innocent tax payers? Where's the incentive to stop this?

18 posted on 09/04/2009 1:42:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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It should be pointed out 85% or so of these cases the rapist was identified by the victim. Still, if they were wrongfully convicted they deserve the payout.

Can the victim who wrongly identified be sued ?

19 posted on 09/04/2009 1:43:47 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: dman4384

” would argue for a million a year, plus whatever their earnings were.”

You’re mentality is one of the reasons Tort Reform is almost impossible. There must be a reasonable limit to this mindless - shove moeny at the person - ALLOT OF MONEY - and all will be well again.


20 posted on 09/04/2009 1:44:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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