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Too bad that *both* of them aren’t silent.
did Penn & Teller lose their minds??
I found their show rather entertaining at one point, but I knew that even though I agreed with many of their episodes (by no means all) I could tell they were distorting facts (if not outright lying) and purely one-sided in their arguments.
I stopped watching them a long time ago.
The Catholic League should have ignored P&T — now their ratings will go through the roof — especially among the Christian / Catholic bashers out there.
It's all part of the plot to destroy Christianity across the nation and make the Marxist government our God.
Libel ... if what they say is untrue, then sue for libel and defamation. We have a court system, use it. If what they said is untrue, bankrupt them - I have no problem with that at all.
However, the Catholic Church has, and is still actively protecting members of its clergy who have molested children. If you want accountability, act accountable.
Why defend the indefensible?
Consider the source.
I’m holding my breath waiting for the expose on the religion of pieces. /sarc
This week the League commenced a mass mailing of DVD copies of the outrageous episode to bishops and religious leaders across the nation. 414 bishops, hundreds of influential Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Orthodox Christian, Muslim and Mormon religious leaders across the United States are to receive the packages. The League has also posted the complete program on its website....
"One of the most vile, obscene programs ever aired in any nation" is being distributed by the Catholic League and Bill Donohue en masse and free of charge, to hundreds of religious leaders across the nation. Oh the irony.
This week the League commenced a mass mailing of DVD copies of the outrageous episode to bishops and religious leaders across the nation. 414 bishops, hundreds of influential Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Orthodox Christian, Muslim and Mormon religious leaders across the United States are to receive the packages.
So now more people than otherwise would have will see this? I find it hard to believe that it was the intent of the “League” to make sure that this offense was viewed by as many people as possible.
Look at the job they did on Mahatma (means "Saint" in Hindi) Gandhi.
“The League has also posted the complete program on its website here”
Why in the world are they promoting this thing?
Oh please. This show didn't do such a thing, it talked about three or four major scandals and the politics of the church reacting. For the most part, it did not go into Catholicism as a religion, instead it focused on the politics of the church. The theme was the church being a self-protecting (to the point of a fault at times) political-esque entity instead of a religious organization. This is a debate/challenge that happens with almost all denominations, Catholics more because of their size and longer history.
Even aside from the questionable legality here, that's ridiculous attention-whore behavior.
Ah, for the good old days, when the pope knew how to deal with critics - and had enough power to do so.
Why no boycott of advertisers? The Catholic League needs to call for a full boycott of advertiserrs or get out of the business.
I love Penn & Teller and “Bullsh!t” is one of the best shows out there.
Haven’t had Showtime in a year, so I haven’t seen this episode, though.
That’s why we have a First Amendment.
The Catholic League is perfectly capable of fighting back.
1st amendment at work again, we can’t have our cake and eat it too. Its their opinion, they bash many other things too. They even bash all religions. After all, their show is called “Bullshit”.
From what I've read and heard from the man in his public persona, I think that Penn Jilette is one of those atheists whose disbelief is driven by a deep-seated anger toward God for allowing the good to suffer along with the evil. Most of the atheists that I know personally are the same: they'd love to believe in God, but the fact that He (for his own unknowable reasons) permits the good to suffer while the evil ostensibly prosper offends their reason and innate sense of justice. (I can't say that I blame them; many holy people have also experienced the same anger towards God, as we see in Scripture. I myself have shaken my fist at the Almighty on more than one occasion.)
Many atheists are people of good will who have been driven from Christ by the hypocrisy and weakness of people like me (i.e. weak and unfaithful Christians), and more than a few are intellecually gifted, creative, or otherwise "abnormal" people who have personally suffered injury and abuse at the hands of others acting in the name of Christ. I'm guessing, of course, but based upon his work I believe that Penn Jilette may be such a person.
In any case, I'm not trying to defend this televised attack on the Catholic faith. Neither will I watch it. That being said, I think our best response as Catholics is to ignore this sort of essentially superficial criticism and redouble our efforts to live up to our faith. Being better Christians won't win us any popularity contests, of course, but it will allow us to lead well-intentioned atheists and non-Christians back to Christ by our examples.