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August 31, 1992: Randy Weaver surrenders to end an 11-day siege of his Idaho mountain cabin
American Rifleman ^ | Jim Oliver

Posted on 08/31/2009 12:33:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

THE RANDY WEAVER CASE

BY JIM OLIVER

Another Federal Fiasco!

BATF's entrapment of Randy Weaver led to the violent deaths of three people. Says his defense attorney, Gerry Spence: "What happened to Randy Weaver can happen to anybody in this country."


Seeing his dog, Striker, shot to death by masked intruders clad in camouflage, Sammy Weaver, 14, fired back in fear for his life. The 4 ft., 11" tall youngster was hit in the arm, then shot in the back as he turned to run for home. He died instantly, killed by an agent of the federal government.

Cradling her 10-month-old daughter in her arms, Vicki Weaver stood in the doorway of her home, mourning her slain son, unaware that she herself had only seconds to live. In an instant a bullet tore into Vicki Weaver's face, blew through her jaw and severed her carotid artery. The bullet was fired from 200 yds. away by an agent of the federal government.

What had the Weaver family done to bring FBI snipers and submachine- gun-toting U.S. marshals to the woods around their cabin on Ruby Ridge in northern Idaho? Why did the government act as though the Weavers had forfeited the protections guaranteed all Americans by the United States Constitution? Who made the decisions that led to their unjustified deaths and also to the death of deputy U.S. Marshall William Degan?

For the six men working near Weaver's plywood cabin on Ruby Ridge, Aug. 21, 1992, was another day on a job that had been going on more than 16 months. Their employer, the U.S. government, was spending $13,000 a week, and there had been no end in sight to the work.

The cabin--really a shack--was home to 44-year old former Green Beret Randy Weaver and his family--wife, Vicki; son, Sammy; and daughters, Sara, Rachel and Elisheba. It was also home to their young friend, Kevin Harris. They were subsistence hunters, and tended a garden, putting up vegetables. A generator produced occasional electricity. They had no TV, no radio.

This day there were some new men on the job site not far from the cabin--one, 42-year-old William Degan, had been brought to northern Idaho on special orders. He was to help plan a successful conclusion to the job.

The men in the woods were dressed in their work clothes--camouflage commando outfits complete with masks. They carried the tools of their trade--two-way radios rigged for quiet operation, night vision equipment, semi-automatic handguns, fully automatic military rifles and at least one silenced HK submachine gun. One of the men was a medic, prepared to care for any casualties.

The weaver family had dogs. Somebody threw a rock to test their reaction. A golden retriever barked near the cabin and came running their way. A mission somebody in the Marshal Service had dubbed "Operation Northern Exposure" was about to end.

The "op" had included use of jet reconnaissance overflights with aerial photographic analysis by the Defense Mapping Agency, and placement of high-resolution video equipment recording activity by the Weaver family from sites 1 1/2 miles away--160 hours worth of tape used.

For nearly a year and a half, federal agents had roamed the area, picking locations for surveillance and for snipers. Degan, belonged to the Special Operations Group, the Marshals' national SWAT team. The six on-site this day were deputy U.S. Marshals.

The target of all of this--and of a Federal law enforcement and prosecution effort that would eventually total approximately $3 million--was Randy Weaver. What kind of criminal was he to demand this kind of attention? Was he a major drug dealer? Serial killer? Was he a terrorist bomber?

No. On Oct. 24, 1989, Weaver sold two shotguns whose barrels arguably measured 1/4 inch less than the 18 inch length determined arbitrarily by Congress to be legal. The H&R single-barrel 12-ga. and Remington pump were sold to a good friend who instructed Weaver to shorten the barrels. The "good friend" was an undercover informant working for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), who later told reporters he was in it "mainly for the excitement."

Eight months after he sold the shotguns, Weaver was approached by two BATF agents with an offer--spy on the Aryan Nations, a white supremacist hate group head-quartered in northern Idaho, or go to jail. Weaver refused to become a government informer, and--six months later--he was indicted on the shotgun charge.

On Jan. 17, 1991, as Weaver and his wife were driving to town for supplies, they encountered a pickup truck-camper with its hood up, a man and woman seeming to be in trouble. The Weavers stopped to offer their help. A horde of federal agents piled out of the camper. A pistol was pressed against Weaver's neck. Vicki Weaver was thrown to the slushy ground.

Weaver was arraigned before a federal magistrate, who later admitted he cited the wrong law. Out on bond, Weaver went back to his cabin. According to friends who testified in court, he and his wife vowed not to have any more dealings with the courts of the federal government. They would just stay on their mountain.

A hearing was set on the shotgun matter for Federal Court in Moscow, Idaho. The government notified Weaver by letter that he was to appear March 20, 1991. The actual hearing was held February 20--one month earlier. The error in dates was enough to give rise to a memo within the Marshal Service saying the case would be a washout. (Weaver did not show for the wrong date, either.) U.S. Attorney Ron Howen went to the grand jury anyway, and Weaver was indicted for failure to appear.

But why had the BATF picked Randy Weaver to set up as an informer? He was a man devoted to family, a man with no criminal record, a veteran who served his country with honor. It was Weaver's beliefs that made him an ideal target. His unorthodox religious and political views were far outside mainstream America. He was a white separatist. And, Randy Weaver was little, a nobody.

Over the next 16 months, the feds painted Weaver as racist, as anti-semitic, as a criminal. But they had to entrap him into his only crime, altering two guns. The media were unquestioning. In print and on TV and radio, Weaver's home--the plywood shack he built himself--became a "mountain fortress," and then "a bunker," and a stronghold protected by a cache of 15 weapons and ammunition capable of piercing armored personnel carriers."

The common shotguns Weaver sold became the chosen "weapons of drug dealers and terrorists" or "gangster weapons" that "have no sporting use." The media always added the universal out... "agents said." But there were no gangsters. There were no terrorists or drug dealers, just Weaver, the gun buyer and the government.

It was all a lie. Hate-hype. People believed it, maybe even the agents who planted the hate-hype began to believe it. It all ceased to matter on August 21, when Striker barked and sniffed out the agents spying on the cabin--lives changed, lives ended.

Nobody, except the people who were there, knows exactly what happened next. There were several versions of the story. But some facts jibe. Randy Weaver's little boy, Sammy--a kid whose voice hadn't yet changed--and Kevin Harris followed Striker. Harris and Weaver later said they thought the dog was chasing a deer. Harris carried a bolt-action hunting rifle. The boy also had a gun.

Without warning a federal agent fired a burst into Striker, killing him. (It came out in court later that there had been a plan to take the dog "out of the equation.") The boy, frightened, shot back, and when one of the agents fired another burst, Sammy lay dead.

Kevin Harris shot deputy William Degan in the chest. He died a few moments later. The shooting ended relatively quickly. The agents would claim Harris fired first. Harris claimed he fired after the boy was shot. Agents told the media their men had been pinned down for eight hours. It was a lie.

The dog was dead. The boy was dead. Deputy Degan was dead. Two American families had tragically lost loved-ones. During the night hours, Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris brought the little boy's body to a shed near the cabin and washed it.

Deputy Degan's shooting brought in the FBI. Soon, the Weaver property was ringed by a huge force of FBI, BATF, U.S. Marshals, Idaho state police and local law enforcement and Idaho National Guard.

Among the federal law enforcement commanders was Richard Rogers, the head of the FBI's hostage rescue team, which includes its snipers. On the flight out, he took an extraordinary step--he decided to alter radically the prescribed rules of engagement of FBI sharpshooters.

Normally, agents can only shoot when they are facing death or grievous harm. But 11 snipers that were positioned around the Weaver cabin were given new ordrs:

"If any adult in the compound is observed with a weapon after the surrender announcement is made, deadly force can and should be employed to neutralize the individual." This meant Randy Weaver's wife would be fair game. It went on:

"If any adult male is observed with a weapon prior to the announcement, deadly force can and should be employed if the shot can be taken without endangering the children."

Of words reminiscent of hollow justifications used in Waco, Texas, federal spokesmen kept telling the media of their concern for the children. In fact, Gene Glenn, the agent in charge of the siege, told The New York Times he considered the kids to be hostages. Yet they'd already killed one child.

The negotiators were not in place, and no effort had been made to contact the Weavers, when Randy Weaver, Kevin Harris--armed-- and 16-year-old Sara Weaver left the cabin and moved to the shed where Sam's body lay.

As the three reached the shed, an FBI sniper some 200 yds. away aimed at Weaver. He told the court he was aiming for the spine, just below the neck. He missed; shot Weaver in the back of the arm, the bullet exiting through the armpit.

Sara later told Spokesman Review staff writer Jess Walter in a copyrighted story:

"I ran up to my dad and tried to shield him and pushed him toward the house. If they were going to shoot someone, I was going to make them shoot a kid."

At the cabin, Vicki Weaver was waiting at the door, holding her infant daughter, Elisheba. The sniper fired again. His bullet hit Vicki Weaver. She was dead before the baby hit the floor, miraculously unhurt. Harris was hit by bullet fragments and bone from Vicki's skull. He was bleeding badly. Randy Weaver, daughters Sara and 10-year-old Rachel all saw the violent death.

Later, sniper Lon Horiuchi stated in court that killing Vicki Weaver had been a mistake; that he was aiming for Kevin Harris. Defense attorney Spence asked him, "You wanted to kill him, didn't you?" He answered, "Yes, sir."

Sara Weaver recounted the night following her mother's death. Again from reporter Jess Walter's story:

"Elisheba cried during the night. She was saying, 'Mama, mama, mama.'... Dad was crying and saying, 'I know baby. I know baby. Your Mama's gone....'"

She told Walters that on Sunday, they tried to yell at federal agents and get their attention, to tell them that her mother was dead. She said they got no resopnse. Instead they would her the FBI negotiators.

"They'd come on real late at night and say, 'Come out and talk to us, Mrs. Weaver. How's the baby, Mrs. Weaver,' in a real smart-alecky voice. Or they'd say, 'Good morning, Randall. How'd you sleep? We're having pancakes. What are you having?"

The FBI later claimed it had no idea that its sniper had shot Vicki Weaver. Yet a New York Times stringer quoted FBI sources as saying they were "using a listening device that allow(ed) them to hear conversations, and even the baby's cries in the cabin." Another lie?

On Thursday, August 27, radio newsman Paul Harvey used his noon broadcast to reach the Weavers, who he'd learned were regular listeners. Urging Randy Weaver to surrender, Harvey said, prophetically, "Randy, you'll have a much better chance with a jury of understanding homefolks than you could ever have with any kind of shoot-out with 200 frustrated lawmen."

As part of their efforts to make contact with the Weavers, the FBI sent a robot with a telephone to the cabin. But the robot also had a shotgun pointed at the door, so the Weavers feared that reaching for the phone could result in death or injury.

Somewhere in all of this, the FBI discovered the body of Sammy. They told the news media they didn't know he'd been killed.

The siege began to unravel six days after Vicki Weaver had been killed. Her body remained in the kitchen of the cabin all that time. Sara crawled around her to get food and water for her family. It was during this time that Randy Weaver and Kevin Harris dictated their version of their story to Sara. In this letter, Weaver accused his government of murdering his wife.

The news media, based on information from the feds, repeatedly reported that Vicki had been killed in "an exchange of fire" or in a "gun battle." More spin control.

The only shots were two--from the government's sniper.

Kevin Harris was the first person to come out. Sunday, August 30, badly wounded, he was rushed to a Spokane hospital where he was treated and charged with murder. A magistrate told him he was facing the death penalty.

The rest of the family came out on the next day. The surrender was negotiated--not by the FBI--but by Bo Gritz, former Green Beret hero.

All the lies and federal spin control over the story were about to end. The case was going to court.

The 36-day trial took place in the U.S. District Court in Boise, with Judge Edward Lodge presiding. The jury of eight women and four men heard the government put on 56 witnesses. The defense rested without calling a single witness, confident that the government had destroyed its own case. They were right.

The jury deliberated for nearly three weeks, and found Harris not guilty of murder or any other charges leveled against him. They found Weaver not guilty of eight federal felony counts. The judge had earlier thrown out two other counts.

Weaver was found guilty of two counts: failing to appear in court and violating his bail conditions. He was declared not guilty of the gun charge--the seed of all this misery.

It was a bizarre trial, full of contradictions, with government witnesses countering each other's stories as to the events of August 21, and countering the events leading up to Vicki Weaver's death the next day.

The question of who fired first--Harris or the Marshals--was key to the jury deciding on the murder charge against Harris. In the end they believed Kevin Harris acted in self-defense. Earlier, the death penalty had been ruled out. The law the prosecution cited had been struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court two decades before.

The government spent days going over the Weavers' religious views, trying to establish they were racist and demonstrated a long-lived conspiracy to violently confront the government. The jury didn't believe it.

Marshall service witnesses told about a series of pre-siege scenarios to root Weaver out of his cabin. But when pressed by the defense, they said they never considered simply knocking on the door and arresting him.

During the trial, the government admitted that the FBI had tampered with the evidence; that the crime scene photos given the defense were phony reenactments. Physical evidence had been removed and replaced. The prosecutor knew this and had failed to tell the defense.

The prosecution also withheld documents that might have helped the defense. When ordered by the judge to produce them immediately, the FBI sent the material from Washington, D.C., via Fourth Class mail, which took two weeks to cross the country. For prosecutorial misconduct, the judge ordered the government to pay part of the defense attorneys' fees, an action almost unheard of in a criminal case. Prosecutor Hoiwen also was forced to apologize in open court. At the end of the trial, he collapsed in the middle of a statement, telling the judge, "I can't go on."

Gerry Spence told the jury, "This is a murder case, but the people who committed the murder are not here in court."

After the trial, Spence told The New York Times, "A jury today has said that you can't kill somebody just because you wear badges, then cover those homicides by prosecuting the innocent.

What are we going to do now about the deaths of Vicki Weaver, a mother who was killed with a baby in her arms, and Sammy Weaver, a boy who was shot in the back?"

Spence has asked the Boundary County, Idaho, prosecutor to bring charges against various federal agents. Should that happen, lingering questions about the Weaver case finally may be answered. Should that happen another jury undoubtedly will serve notice to those who have forgotten that the United States government is supposed to serve its citizens, not entrap them, not defame them, not falsify evidence against them and absolutely not kill their children.


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To: muawiyah

Sort of the Idaho version of a “Good Ol’ Boys Weekend”?


61 posted on 08/31/2009 4:02:23 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Pretty much it. We had the same thing going on in the Southern Appalachians when they went looking for Eric Rudolph.


62 posted on 08/31/2009 4:10:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: nascarnation

Not sure it will happen yet, but not too surprised if it were to.


63 posted on 08/31/2009 4:22:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: DainBramage
Youre like blacks who scream racism when they cant rebut any conversation.

Didn't say you supported Obama. I said that your thought process is what I would expect from one.

You're too comical... first I need to attend Aryan (N)ation meetings (the "N" in Nation would be capitalized, by the way), then in the next post "Youre (apostrophe, apostrophe, apostrophe!) like blacks who scream racism...".

Screen name fits. Congratulations.

64 posted on 08/31/2009 4:25:12 PM PDT by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: DainBramage

Things ok in Texas tonight DainBramage?


65 posted on 08/31/2009 4:28:52 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: PalmettoMason
No you said nothing about my thought process you said \ Just what I would expect from an Obama supporter.

Why do you resort to calling names instead of rebutting me?

Ive yet to call you a masonic cult dumbass, and I wont.

Why in the world do you celebrate Weaver? Illuminate me please.

66 posted on 08/31/2009 4:31:42 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Joe Boucher

Things are great here tonight. The weather is perfect, the beer is cold and you can carry guns.


67 posted on 08/31/2009 4:33:39 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DuncanWaring
I don't think he did that until several years later.

I guess you are right. He was a former President when he did that.

"Tussing said the NRA "turned him off" at about the same time that former President George H.W. Bush resigned from the organization. Bush resigned after a 1995 letter by Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the NRA, described government agents as "jackbooted thugs.""

68 posted on 08/31/2009 4:36:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: DainBramage

Beer’s been in a cooler of ice since this morning and the sun is going down.


69 posted on 08/31/2009 4:38:43 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: DainBramage
In your post 59 you misquoted the poster (Joe Boucher) and completely missed his point.

Then, you post this:

Ive yet to call you a masonic cult dumbass, and I wont.

And you want to have an intellectual discussion?

Not possible. (Although I am impressed that you could spell "Illuminate".)

Now excuse me while I conspire with the other "cult dumbasses" to take over the world.

70 posted on 08/31/2009 4:45:30 PM PDT by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: DainBramage
You must of course also not pay your taxes and go to Aryan nation Meetings to further your career.

You got your misinformation in there. Good little jackboot! Now go polish your tin badge.

71 posted on 08/31/2009 4:49:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Joe Boucher; trumandogz; suthener; voteNRA; All

The government’s excuse for all the Ruby Ridge slaughter was two (alleged) 1/4 inch wide, .729 inch I.D. steel rings...


72 posted on 08/31/2009 5:30:17 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: PalmettoMason
Ok (sign language on) "Wha do yuh woshup Randee Weevah"

Come on Why is he such a hero...show me one thing..it will tell me alot about you.

73 posted on 08/31/2009 6:58:36 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: TigersEye
The first truth is..life sucks then you die. Once you figure that out you quit worrying.

Im no jackboot, but Im also one to look at the truth and Randy Weaver was into the wrong things and fell in with the wrong crowd and got his family shot..Would you have shot it out with your wife in the house?

After all was said and done where did Weaver go to get support? Every frigging white supremacist gathering and Aryan nation get together he could find. Deny that.

74 posted on 08/31/2009 7:06:49 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

I do deny that. It’s all BS. Weaver had never been to an Aryan Nations meeting until an BATF agent pressured him into going to gather intelligence for them. There was also no shootout other than the boy shooting at a hidden figure in the woods who had just shot his dog. Are you a liar or are you just pig-ignorant of the whole story?


75 posted on 08/31/2009 8:14:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Stretch
clinton was the mastermind of this fiasco.

Thanks for the civics lesson.

Now could you please tell us what law gave the Governor of Arkansas jurisdiction over the actions of the FBI and ATF within the State of Idaho?

76 posted on 08/31/2009 8:46:28 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: DainBramage

I don’t want to get into this again because you don’t read what I write anyway. I have no personal feelings about Randy Weaver, one way or the other. The issue is the total overreaction of federal law enforcement and the improper way this whole situation was handled, from the original charge to the changing of the “rules of engagement”. (I don’t believe I had ever heard that term applied in civilian law enforcement until this situation.) That’s my only concern in this. For the fourth time, I don’t consider Weaver a hero.


77 posted on 09/01/2009 5:51:42 AM PDT by suthener
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To: TigersEye

I had this same argument with DainBramage a few weeks ago. He seems to have a lot more facts about this than the rest of us. I’ve only read a book and everything else I’ve ever seen about it, so I guess I’m pretty ignorant. He seems to believe that Weaver was cutting barrels for a living. I’ve never heard that. I agree with you on the shootout thing. Weaver never even fired a shot. Hell of way to conduct a shootout. The only sympathy I have for Weaver, though, is that all he wanted was to be left alone. I can seriously relate to that.


78 posted on 09/01/2009 5:57:13 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener
Weaver met a government informant at an Aryan Nations gathering where he told the informant he was having trouble making ends meet. The informant told him he was making money selling weapons. Weaver told him he would like to do some for 100 dollars a piece. After doing a couple for the informant he told him he could do 5 or so a week.

No entrapment here, Randy just wanted to make money and didnt care how. He was an idiot and celebrating him or Ruby Ridge in anyway is rediculous.

79 posted on 09/01/2009 6:18:16 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Manly Warrior

I’d like to make a correction or clarification to my earlier post:

In 2008 HS Precision apparently posted an endorsement of their products by the person being discussed on their website and subsequently removed the endorsement. As far as I know, he did not actually work for them, but I may be wrong in the details.

Regards;


80 posted on 09/01/2009 8:03:07 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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