Posted on 08/26/2009 8:53:53 AM PDT by VRWCTexan
Syrian President Bashar Assad's..visit was officially described as a goodwill trip to congratulate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his re-election as Iran's president. But what came out following Assad's meeting with Iran's Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, was an idea for an unofficial quadripartite alliance between Syria and Iran, with Turkey and Iraq....Turkey has begun to accept the possibility that its European dreams are unlikely to materialize...
Obama...appears determined to announce his Middle East peace plan next month in New York in the presence of both Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the chairman of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas
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If fanatics simply drempt, it wouldn’t be so much of a worldwide problem,would it?
Seems to be no shortage of “fanatics” coming out of islam. If, indeed, there are any “pragmatists” in any of their populations anywhere they are, they are hiding in caves somewhere because the “dreamers” are a nightmare that will get them dead.
It seems you have no use for prophecy. That is well and good if that is what floats your boat, but it is remarkably coincidental then, that all the things foretold are happening literally. Every single one of them.
As for the Kurds, the “benevolent” countries which house them also wish their genocide. I hope the Kurds do get themselves together and kick their quadrifate asses.
The “prophecy” you call drivel predicts a surprise ally from the north when it seems as if Israel is about to fall.
**The Kurds are the Medes, the original Aryans.
The Medes: Josephus relates the Medes (OT Heb. Madai) to the biblical character, Madai, son of Japheth. “Now as to Javan and Madai, the sons of Japhet; from Madai came the Madeans, who are called Medes, by the Greeks” Antiquities of the Jews, I:6.
According to the Book of Jubilees (10:35-36), Madai had married a daughter of Shem, and preferred to live among Shem’s descendants, rather than dwell in Japheth’s allotted inheritance beyond the Black Sea; so he begged his brothers-in-law, Elam, Asshur and Arphaxad, until he finally received from them the land that was named after him, Media. **The Kurds still maintain traditions of descent from Madai.**
Shem=good guys
Ham=bad guys
Gog and Magog
Right where it’s supposed to happen.
Here are the pragmatists caves .....
Kingdom Center ..Riyadh
Burj Dubai.....it is the tallest Building in the world.
You need to get out more. Your knowledge base is lacking
So now you’re gonna tell me that Riyadh is somewhere in Iran and Dubai left earth and fell down on Syria?
Are you saying that extreme wealth is the same as pragmatism and that the westerners are suddenly able to practice freedom of religion, Saudis can convert without fear of death, women can leave home without big brother or daddy or hubby, and oppressive shariah is no longer the law in Saudi Arabia?
Are you saying that because there are tall buildings in wealthy countries NOT Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, that Turkey, Iran, Syria, and Iraq will no longer want to ethnically cleanse the Kurds?
I don’t get your point. Did you have one?
EXCELLENT POINTS.
This is particularly pregnant with heavy duty meaning:
but it is remarkably coincidental then, that all the things foretold are happening literally. Every single one of them.
THX TONS.
INDEED.
They will all be toppled.
And you will remember this thread at that time.
I think this is more the Gog and Magog alliance setting up (Ezekiel 38) After that some (hopefully not us) will see the rise of the AC and the one world government. I hope to be raptured and sitting at the feet of Christ before that!
That is because Joel Rosenberg novels are taken straight out of the Bible!
A point?
Naw.
Such ‘pseudo-super rationalist’ perspectives are not particularly given to offering meaningful points . . .
Just irrational, ignorant, smug, haughty blather.
INDEED. Straight out of Bible Prophecy and extensive well connected research on the street, in the field.
INDEED. Straight out of Bible Prophecy and extensive well connected research on the street, in the field.
Realists seek pragmatic solutions to the Kurdish problem.
I know some realists who looked for solutions to the “Jewish Problem”. They lived in Germany and were called national socialists.They started just like Obama is doiing now, looking for “historic justice” in a new Utopia imposed by tyrrany.Its actually histrionic justice.You even use the same language the nazis did:”solution”, and “pragmatic”.But you don’t even know it.LOL.
And I assure you that this new caliphate will plan a very similar pragmatic solution.
You progressives are all the same. Blind to the lessons of history.Go take a bath with John McCain, and a pox on you all.
Where's that?
;-)
blah blah blah yada yada ignorance yada
Take a close look at what you are supporting my"FRiend."
You are attempting to extrapolate in a straight line when the equation has quadratic factors. Your photos are a joke in this argument because Saddam is dead.
You in your infinite anti Arab super bigot mode can not tolerate any thing that doesn’t fit your template. There are 4 nations that all have a problem with a militant minority that could trigger an unwanted war.
It is not unreasonable for me to believe that our state department working with Iraq and Turkey urged the meetings to see if there is any common ground on which to go forward.
The war is already triggered. Turkey has already sent its forces intio Nortern Iraq.
These 4 nations KNOW that Obama will not interfere and that the resources of the US military are now finite ( budget constraints and anti war president. America was the Kurds only hope.
And you will watch as Kurds are slaughtered in the 10s of thousands, because they will fight, as they should.
Final Solution eh? You are worse than a liberal. Bill Clinton stood by and watched as thousands were gassed, he thought as you do, ( Lets Talk, lets have a summit, buahahahahah!)
You are a closet liberal on this issue.
The USA should be arming the Kurds to the teeth, and the Iraq government should be funnelling that aid to them. The Kurds are like Texans, arm them and they will forever be a part of Iraq, keeping the security of Iraq's North.
Here is another literal fulfillment:
When Netanyahu appears at the UN, literally every “nation” on earth will be surrounding and against Israel and for the FIRST time, the USA will be standing with Israel’s enemies. (Bible.)
Israel stands alone in front of the “Eighth, and FINAL World Power,” (Nostradamus,) the United Nations.
There is also the prophecy that before the antichrist, there would be one who was thought to be the antichrist, but in reality was only paving the way for the true antichrist. So we had Bill Clinton who literally paved the way for, and put in place the entire infrastructure of the obama administration.
The bam was elected by promising world peace, hope, and change with corrupt and evil machinations and capitulations to his onslaught. He advertised himself as the new messiah. His cult followers follow blindly. He has caused so much world ruin already one would think the world would recognize him as evil, but they don’t.
He has now slapped two more of our best allies in the face, Poland and the Czech Republic while reaching out to, and supporting, the most vile and repressive regimes on earth. He is anti-GOD, anti-freedom, and anti-life. He has taken power unto himself that no man has ever achieved before by holding the reins of the world’s only true superpower.
He comes from the east wearing a “holy” title of Hussein.
And on and on.
Hmmmmmm
Plenty true in your assertions.
You could be right about OThuga. I still think he’s a forerunner.
If he . . . and comes back to life . . . I’ll certainly have to re-evaluate.
Netanyahu has been given the plans in Germany for Hitler’s final solution to the “Jewish Problem.” Yesterday or today, he visits the site of the Wannsee Conference where the “Final Solution” was planned. Soon after that, he comes to stand before the world where the president of the Unites States of America will offer up yet another “final solution” to the Jewish Problem.
Every scenario throughout time that scholars pointed to as the fulfillment of Hebrew Prophecy has always had some, or many, of the exact details missing.
In reality, the prophecies of Ezekiel and Isaiah have NEVER been fulfilled. I am a student of Biblical Prophecy. THIS goes far beyond ANYTHING that has ever happened in history before.
For LITERAL purposes, let me state for the record, that it does not matter what came before this. The anitchrist is PRE-MESSIAH for Christians and Hebrews alike. It doesn’t matter if you believe a messiah has already been here or has not yet come because the prophecy is for NOW.
Leaving religion aside and reading the Bible as HISTORY, even the most hardened skeptic cannot help but see that the Old Testament Bible has been proven to be profoundly accurate in historical terms. Archaeology and technology have borne out many facts that so called experts agreed were not probable. As it turns out, some of their most “far fetched” improbabilities turned out to be historically accurate to a fault.
No one, no scholar, no expert, no matter how hard they tried could ever connect all the dots in Bible Prophecy because the Bible never mentioned the New World by name and the final fulfillment of the prophecy never happened. EVER.
They assumed the prophecies only included the world as it was known during biblical times and speculated on what their words actually meant. That simply does not fly in the reality of what the prophecy actually states. It doesn’t limit itself to the “known” world of the time.
The prophecies are LITERAL. They cite places, rivers, islands, and nations named and unnamed, including nations across oceans, and situations that they had no knowledge of because they could ONLY exist now, in their far, far future. Some rivers named don’t exist on the surface anymore so “experts” widely “assumed that their “nonexistence” now meant that prophecies had already been fulfilled in the ancient past. NOW technology has shown us that these rivers still exist deep underground yet the “experts” have never said they might be wrong.
IT DOES say the ENTIRE world, including unnamed strange places, not just the world as they knew it. It reaches much further into the future than arrogant “scholars” ever gave them credit for. After all, THEY were primitive and not as “smart” as we are today. The “experts” are/were wrong.
Turkey moving into the literal endtimes prophecy, obama’s sudden rise to power, is truly fearsome and it is with awe that I watch each literal prediction move into place without exception including the recent total solar eclipse. A total solar eclipse will not occur again for nearly two hundred years. The next total eclipse of the Moon will occur on December 21, 2010 turning the moon to “blood.”
The Bible itself explains how you know when a prophecy is true. It HAPPENS. I am watching it happen LITERALLY and in ways too confounding for an ancient prophet to have been able to extrapolate everything it contained in finite detail. The prophets did not know. They were told what to say and they said it.
“Son of Man, go before the people and say unto them...”
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