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Ermey Says He’ll 'Square Away' Birthers
Military.com ^ | 8-21-2009 | Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

Posted on 08/25/2009 4:45:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG

Troops challenging the legitimacy of President Barack Obama as commander-in-chief -- including at least one who is fighting deployment -- should take heed: Gunnery Sgt. Hartman wants to know your "major malfunction."

R. Lee Ermey, the Marine-turned-actor whose role as drill instructor Gunny Hartman in the late Stanley Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" has all but placed the Vietnam veteran in the pantheon of Marine heroes alongside "Chesty" Puller, Smedley Butler and Dan Daly, isn't buying anyone's political objector status.

"I haven't heard about those guys," Ermey told Military.com during an Aug. 21 interview. "If I do run across them though, trust me, I'll square them away."

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afterbirther; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; ermey; fullmetaljacket; gunney; gunnyhartman; honorarygunny; rleeermey; staffsergeantermey
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To: AZ .44 MAG
"I haven't heard about those guys," Ermey told Military.com during an Aug. 21 interview. "If I do run across them though, trust me, I'll square them away."

Sounds like the guy's operating on the basis of incomplete information. We all know how good that is for a successful mission.
261 posted on 08/26/2009 11:25:04 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: AmericanVictory

I take it you were not following the thread


262 posted on 08/26/2009 12:31:03 PM PDT by Brytani (DC Freeper Convention and National Tea Party - FreepMail Me for rooms and convention info!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We had Clinton's records as Governor of Arkansas.

"One major problem for researchers interested in more systematic analyses of the development Bill Clinton's governing style is that his gubernatorial papers are not easily available to scholars. They remain in the custody of President Clinton at an undisclosed location."

- The Clinton presidency: campaigning, governing, and the psychology of leadership By Stanley Allen Renshon, 1995

263 posted on 08/26/2009 12:34:04 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

It would be hard to find a better example of why the public needs to see a POTUS candidate’s records.


264 posted on 08/26/2009 12:58:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: El Sordo

Then the opinion of the Supreme Court on the point in your opinion is not important, I take it.


265 posted on 08/26/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Brytani

In other words, you do not dispute the point.


266 posted on 08/26/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory

What opinion of the USSC do you speak of?


267 posted on 08/26/2009 1:44:07 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: wideminded
You've got to be kidding! You know, the same dude published a book on Clinton in '96. What'd he use as reference, hm?

Are you also trying to say that as Governor of Arkansas, Clinton governed in a vacuum? He was invisible?

Why are you working so hard to defend Obamas lack of known background?

Do you realize how suspicious it looks?

268 posted on 08/26/2009 1:49:06 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: El Sordo

The one where they said that if one parent is not a U. S. citizen then whether the child is a “natural born citizen” within the meaning of Artile II, Section 1, Clause II is “in doubt.” What are you taling about? Have you not reseachred the law on point?


269 posted on 08/26/2009 2:51:57 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“We had McCain’s BC and medical records.”

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John McCain has never publicly displayed his BC. According to WaPo reporter Michael Dobbs, a McCain staffer showed him McCain’s BC, which states he was born in the naval base hospital at Coco Solo, Canal Zone. McCain’s mom, still alive and quite sharp, says the same. (The internet BC which purports to show birth in Colon, Panama is almost certainly a fake.) But he has never publicly displayed his BC.


270 posted on 08/26/2009 3:11:36 PM PDT by Redwood Bob (Peter Schiff for U.S. Senate 2010!)
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To: AmericanVictory
The final decision by the 10th Circuit in the Craig case, althoug denying him standing under Article III, makes clear that the 1790 statute, nor, for that matter any other statute, does not define or establish a requirement specifically stated in the Constitution since the Constitution is superior law to a statute.

Where did I say that the statues, 1790/95 or later did anything of the sort. The 1790 statute was likely unconstitutional, although with the words "shall be considered as natural born citizens" is not quite the same as "shall be natural born citizens". Perhaps the intent was not to redefine the term, but rather to say that they shall be treated the same as NBCs, without the eligibility to the office of President, since that would be violative of the Constitution. In any event the 1795 act left out "natural born". So Congress, using it's power to define a uniform rule of naturalization (the title of both the 1790 and 1795 acts were "An Act to Establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization" ("an" is not a typo, that's what the act said, and what the Constitution says.) All I said was that even today a child of two US citizen parents, born outside the US is a *citizen*. Like the authors of the 1795 act, I deliberately left out "natural born".

271 posted on 08/26/2009 3:45:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Sordo
The owner doesn’t want to give it to you.

The owner is the state of Hawaii, not BHO Jr, or whatever his name is.

272 posted on 08/26/2009 3:46:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yes, there are many wild-eyed theories out there, but the understanding of the seminal issue can be found, namely that his mom was not old enough to confer Natural Born Citizenship status on him in the US, nor had she been resident in the US the requisite amount of time according to the law of the day to do so.

The law whose criteria Stanley Ann did not meet, only applies to children born outside the US, to one US citizen and one alien parent. It does not apply to a child born in the US, nor to the bastard child of an unmarried woman Citizen born outside the US. (That latter requirement is one year of residence, which she did meet).

However the law deals with citizenship, not natural born citizenship. That is what it was understood to be in 1787, at least for purposes of the Constitutional eligibility to the office of President.

273 posted on 08/26/2009 3:51:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SUSSA
Yeah sure. Women walk out on their husbands all the time in Mohammedan societies.

In some they do. Much of what we think of as Mohammedan "culture", using the word very loosely, is really Arab and Persian culture. Things are different, in many but not all ways, in Indonesia, and sub-saharan Africa. There the Muzzie culture from the north was overlaid on existing tribal cultures. Some of those were pretty matriarchal.

274 posted on 08/26/2009 4:00:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Sordo
6) The idea that an 18 year old girl of limited means would undertake a long and expensive trip to make her way to Africa to give birth and then return to the United States two weeks after the birth stretches the limits of plausibility.

There are other places outside the US besides Africa. Some are within an easy drive of Seattle.

275 posted on 08/26/2009 4:01:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: wideminded
And we know that Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.

Do we have his transcript? Newspaper accounts? Or even a copy, independently supplies, of the program from the graduation?

Given that he has trouble putting 3 words together without use of the teleprompter, it seems somewhat incredulous that he'd have been able to graduate MCL from an "old school" law school, which put a big premium on extemporaneous speaking and thinking on one's feet.

276 posted on 08/26/2009 4:09:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AmericanVictory
Give me something specific and I'll have a look.

Hopefully something more than: “The one that I say proves me right...”

I may have already seen it and had a different read on on it than you do.

277 posted on 08/26/2009 4:14:00 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo

If you knew about it and had done the basic research you would not have to aak. It is always amusing to see those who so arrogantly make assertions from lack of knowledge and act like it is they and not the Supreme Court that decides these matters. We’re all impressed that you will decide if clued in whtther the Supreme Court is right or not.


278 posted on 08/26/2009 4:23:29 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: El Gato

The point was only that there are those, including on this forum, who have sought to confuse by acting as if a statute could somehow define what the Article II phrase means and the 10th Circuit held that that is not the case. I am not saying that you said it; I was just pointing it out as relevant to the discussion.


279 posted on 08/26/2009 4:26:06 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: AmericanVictory

Fine, I’ll change my answer.

Of course I agree with the USSC. Their decisions on this matter clearly support my point of view.

Now you go look up that decision they made where they confirm what I said and this will be settled.


280 posted on 08/26/2009 4:35:37 PM PDT by El Sordo
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