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LIVE: Obama speaks before silent VFW audience
Fox News Channel | 8/17/09

Posted on 08/17/2009 10:16:00 AM PDT by pabianice

Obama is speaking before the VFW now. Except for a dozen people or so, they are sitting on their hands. Vets know who the real Obama is. Occasional applause for apple pie statements. For the most part, silence.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoveterans; pravdamedia; veterans; vfw; wearenotamused
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To: my small voice
The executive branch labels the vets as terrorists, and the One wonders why they don't greet him with cheers and worship?

He must be dumber than I originally thought.

321 posted on 08/18/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by elk
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To: AZamericonnie

I knew it! When I saw the first video that came out and the black guy with the gun was pretending to be anti-obama. I said then that it was a lie; that he was trying to make the patriots look bad. Bet nobody ever reports that, or corrects the mis-reporting.


322 posted on 08/18/2009 12:23:43 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: mware

Yeah, the one in the Red Army..


323 posted on 08/18/2009 12:35:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: rlmorel

The Boy did not write that. Nothing in that language has the verbal quality of the obama language use. He does not luse those large textbook words, unless he copied them.


324 posted on 08/18/2009 12:40:47 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: nufsed

They were’t protesting war. They were protesting Bush.
++++++++++++

They would never admit to that, but that’s the practical result. As such, they are ultimate hypocrites.


325 posted on 08/18/2009 12:47:03 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Kakaze

Thanks!


326 posted on 08/18/2009 1:11:00 PM PDT by bustinchops
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To: WVNan

Hi Nan.....Ya know his political affiliation is unknown to me & I’ve seen nothing online nor in print where the man reveals such information.

My major consternation was the title of the video with no evidence to back up her assertions.

Her original title was “Machine Gun toting Republican Against Obama in Phoenix Arizona”.

First of all it’s not a machine gun...secondly why state or assume he is a republican without his disclosure & thirdly all evidence from the video she posted lends one to believe that he could quite possibly be an Obama supporter.

The sensationalism & obvious attempt to depict republicans &/or gun advocates as lunitics set my hair on fire!

Btw Nan....after many posts on her youtube vid she has since changed the title to “Assault Gun toting protester at Obama rally in Phoenix Arizona”.

A tad bit better perhaps?:)


327 posted on 08/18/2009 1:12:17 PM PDT by AZamericonnie
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To: AZamericonnie

All I know is what I saw with my own eyes. Yesterday the videos were showing him professing to be against the deathcare plan. Today I see this video where he is shouting “We want health care” or something like that, along with the pro-obama crowd. I believe that the ACORN crowd are doing these outrageous things to reflect badly on the patriots.


328 posted on 08/18/2009 5:43:22 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: rlmorel

I transcribed the entire thing using speech recognition software, so I had to read the whole bloody thing and then proofread it.


Kudos to you for your patience and determination.


329 posted on 08/18/2009 6:08:57 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: WVNan

Nan.....you may well be correct.

Course seems these days we are told not to believe what we see with our own eyes & hear with our own ears!


330 posted on 08/18/2009 6:37:15 PM PDT by AZamericonnie
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To: pabianice

Does anyone have the video of this? You Tube won’t allow it because it’s unfavorable.


331 posted on 08/18/2009 9:31:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: HollyB

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America's Veterans!


332 posted on 08/18/2009 11:27:23 PM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: pabianice

* The Wall Street Journal

* OPINION
* AUGUST 18, 2009, 7:12 P.M. ET

The Death Book for Veterans

Ex-soldiers don’t need to be told they’re a burden to society.

By JIM TOWEY

If President Obama wants to better understand why America’s discomfort with end-of-life discussions threatens to derail his health-care reform, he might begin with his own Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). He will quickly discover how government bureaucrats are greasing the slippery slope that can start with cost containment but quickly become a systematic denial of care.

Last year, bureaucrats at the VA’s National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, “Your Life, Your Choices.” It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA’s preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated “Your Life, Your Choices.”

Who is the primary author of this workbook? Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing.

“Your Life, Your Choices” presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political “push poll.” For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be “not worth living.”

The circumstances listed include ones common among the elderly and disabled: living in a nursing home, being in a wheelchair and not being able to “shake the blues.” There is a section which provocatively asks, “Have you ever heard anyone say, ‘If I’m a vegetable, pull the plug’?” There also are guilt-inducing scenarios such as “I can no longer contribute to my family’s well being,” “I am a severe financial burden on my family” and that the vet’s situation “causes severe emotional burden for my family.”

When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel?

One can only imagine a soldier surviving the war in Iraq and returning without all of his limbs only to encounter a veteran’s health-care system that seems intent on his surrender.

I was not surprised to learn that the VA panel of experts that sought to update “Your Life, Your Choices” between 2007-2008 did not include any representatives of faith groups or disability rights advocates. And as you might guess, only one organization was listed in the new version as a resource on advance directives: the Hemlock Society (now euphemistically known as “Compassion and Choices”).

This hurry-up-and-die message is clear and unconscionable. Worse, a July 2009 VA directive instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to “Your Life, Your Choices.” Not just those of advanced age and debilitated condition—all patients. America’s 24 million veterans deserve better.

Many years ago I created an advance care planning document called “Five Wishes” that is today the most widely used living will in America, with 13 million copies in national circulation. Unlike the VA’s document, this one does not contain the standard bias to withdraw or withhold medical care. It meets the legal requirements of at least 43 states, and it runs exactly 12 pages.

After a decade of observing end-of-life discussions, I can attest to the great fear that many patients have, particularly those with few family members and financial resources. I lived and worked in an AIDS home in the mid-1980s and saw first-hand how the dying wanted more than health care—they wanted someone to care.

If President Obama is sincere in stating that he is not trying to cut costs by pressuring the disabled to forgo critical care, one good way to show that commitment is to walk two blocks from the Oval Office and pull the plug on “Your Life, Your Choices.” He should make sure in the future that VA decisions are guided by values that treat the lives of our veterans as gifts, not burdens.

Mr. Towey, president of Saint Vincent College, was director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives (2002-2006) and founder of the nonprofit Aging with Dignity.


333 posted on 08/19/2009 9:09:28 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: RummyChick
lets watch to see if they doctor the applause in replays...

...like they did on the DVD released of the concert in Madison Square Garden soon after nine eleven when Hillary was booed. The lefty producers removed the clear boos of the first responders, who made up the audience. I don't remember if they replaced the boos with cheers or not.

334 posted on 08/19/2009 5:51:31 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: DBrow
Or is watching pro-tennis from close up, or maybe beach volleyball.

It looks like ping pong to me.

335 posted on 08/19/2009 5:53:43 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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