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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 August 2009
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 16 August 2009 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 08/16/2009 5:03:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, August 16th, 2009

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., and Richard Shelby, R-Ala.; J. James Rohack, president of the American Medical Association; John Rother, executive vice president for policy and strategy at AARP.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): FreedomWorks chairman and former Rep. Dick Armey, R-Texas; Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.; former Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D.; R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce; Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.; Gov. Bill Ritter, D-Colo.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): White House press secretary Robert Gibbs; former Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb.; former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius; Sens. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Sebelius; Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo.; Reps. Mike Ross, D-Ark., Tom Price, R-Ga., and Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhotownhalls; bluedogs; gop; guests; kentconrad; lineup; news; shelby; sunday; talkshows
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To: Alas Babylon!
Wallace to Conrad: Shouldn't we just take the public option off the table now?

Doctor talking about defensive medicine and tort reform.

Wallace, does prevention actually save money?

Wallace to Shelby: does RAT-plan actually save money? Malpractice reform? Shelby says it will explode costs.

Shelby: "We have the best health system in the world, we need to expand it, not destroy it."

The doctor thinks the "savings in the system" would be sigificant. This was RAT-speak jargon during implementation of Maine's Dirigo. Turned out to be a big whopper. Amounted to banning hospitals from making improvements such as emergency rooms.

Wallace to Shelby: Rationing?

Shelby, look at the Canadian, British plans and long lines, of course there will be rationing.

Death panels...doctor says it's wrong, a lie.

Doctor referring to pregnancy as a pre-existing condition.

To Conrad re: "gang of six" bipartisan group, have you already dropped the end of life counseling in your plan.

Wallace, I thought there was no deadline? Conrad, waiting for answers from CBO, not bound to any deadline.

101 posted on 08/16/2009 6:20:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Miss Marple
This also sounds similar to part funded problem that we have/had in Britain with patients wanting medication/procedures that at present the NHS clinical body NICE have not approved.

In many cases if a patient insisted on a particular drug that is not authorised by NICE they have been told they would have to pay for the treatment relating to this medical problem if they purchased the drug. Though through many test cases this is now changing and in a few cases you are being allowed to “top up”.

This makes me really made because when they want you to “top up” in others areas this is considered the norm such as with dad's carers. We only get a certain amount paid and have to make a weekly top up contribution of about 48 pounds sterling. Why if this is and has been considered the norm with care is it not with medical costs. They get round it by saying it is a different body one is personal care and the other is medical care.

102 posted on 08/16/2009 6:21:15 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Carley

No problem! A big difference is that tweets are limited to 140 characters. They thus lend themselves to breezy and abbreviated comments, and indeed while she was still guv Palin used them that way. That unfortunately played into the completely unfair, shallow-airhead caricature that the Left/media had painted of her, and William Shatner lampooned them by reading them as poetry on Letterman, I think it was.

But she’s actually taking Facebook to new heights, if you will, posting longer and better researched thought pieces (extensive footnotes and all!) than would be permitted in the usual newspaper op-ed format. She was masterful by first posting one with the evocative ‘death panel’ term, and once everyone from Obama on down had felt compelled to respond she followed up with a more detailed piece that took his healthcare advisor Zeke Emanuel to task as well.

It really was masterful, and your point is entirely on point!


103 posted on 08/16/2009 6:22:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Me too I saw the ping but it seemed there were not many other posts but once on the thread a pile suddenly appeared.


104 posted on 08/16/2009 6:23:08 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: snugs
No. All hospitals take Medicare patients and are under the same rules. It would have been illegal for any hospital to accept him.

A lot of people don't understand this about Medicare and are caught like we were when this happened. I often bring it up in conversations about health care because I don't want others to be caught unsuspecting like we were. We had 12 hours to get a hospital bed and a nursing service (which WE had to pay for). My sisters and I took turns staying with my parents at night because it saved money on nurses. ALl of us were working at the time so we had to have the day nurses (who were not that good) and my mother was in a wheelchair so she could do nothing.

And if all of us had lived out of town and my mother had been in a nursing home they would have STILL released him. They would have sent him to a private nursing home which Medicare does not pay for and would have exhausted all of his money and then put him on Medicaid, and then he would have been transferred to a low-rent nursing facility.

Younger people always think that Medicare is just like private insurance, but it is not.

105 posted on 08/16/2009 6:23:29 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ThreePuttinDude

The servers have been flakely lately. We’ve been hit by numerous denial-of-service attacks, or at least attempts to deny our service.

The whole interwebs have been experiencing a number of attacks these past couple of months. Last month, Twitter and Facebook were taken down for a few momments, with Google also getting hit. The attacks have mostly come from two places, the Peoples Republic of China People’s Liberation Army, and North Korea.

Right now, if you were doing packet analysis, you’d see the ‘Net is becoming full of rogue ICMPs looking for a reply.


106 posted on 08/16/2009 6:23:56 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: maica

Thanks maica, thats why they are written.

Pray for America and Gov Palin


107 posted on 08/16/2009 6:24:12 AM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: TomGuy
Just like the 70+% opposition to Amnesty for Illegals didn't stop Congress and Bush from trying to pass it in 2006 and twice in 2007.

No, but I think it stopped them from PASSING it.

108 posted on 08/16/2009 6:24:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Morgan in Denver
Thanks for the link. That is where I got the picture to send to him.

When he finishes Basic, he will go into medic training, then to college to become a doctor - unless the o changes his plan. His contract covers all of this, but a contract means nothing to the libs.

109 posted on 08/16/2009 6:24:59 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: mathluv

Its also amazing that none of their mistakes are ever their fault.

Pray for America


110 posted on 08/16/2009 6:25:26 AM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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To: Miss Marple
Tinfoil hat firmly in place...

Nexus between "duty to die" and significantly increasing the death tax????

111 posted on 08/16/2009 6:26:03 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Barak Obama: Proud Graduate of the Robert Mugabe School of Government and Economics)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks, I was concerned it might be on my end.
I’m a little relieved, but still concerned now
about the possible cause... dang


112 posted on 08/16/2009 6:26:29 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (o)(o)
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To: 9YearLurker
Just to be sure I’m not missing something, you’re loosely using ‘tweet’ to refer to her Facebook postings, aren’t you? Or is she sending tweets again?

I'm really not "up" on either. I consider 'texting' a giant step backward and I don't really understand the twitter/facebook fads. It could have been her Facebook.
113 posted on 08/16/2009 6:26:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: maica

remember McCain did not want to use “Joe the Plumber” Palin was the one who pushed it.

DC is way out of touch.

DC politicians are not on the front line of the real world. They are even more removed from reality than an ivory tower professor.


114 posted on 08/16/2009 6:28:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
That wouldn't surprise me a bit. Add in "access to bank accounts" and I am afraid we would have "duty to die" pushed especially for those who would provide the IRS with the most revenue.

Tinfoil hat plus tinfoil gown firmly in place.

115 posted on 08/16/2009 6:28:21 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MNJohnnie; W-Girl

I can’t take credit for the “Making Grandma Shovel Ready” part - it came from RedEye last week, I think from Andy Levy.


116 posted on 08/16/2009 6:29:12 AM PDT by Bernard
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To: snugs

Good morning snugs! NICE was in the news last week over a kidney cancer treatment.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4474425.ece


117 posted on 08/16/2009 6:29:25 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Wallace to Conrad: Are raucous public meetings putting damper on moderate Democrats regarding president's plan?

Conrad: Actually the president has no plan.

Shelby: I think Congress is beginning to rethink what they are gong to do.

Coming up: Reports on Nazis and UnAmericans at town hall meetings.

118 posted on 08/16/2009 6:30:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: snugs

snugs, there is a very thorough discussion of the proposed changes in a lib magazine, The Atlantic. The author wrote that the true customer of today’s hospitals is not the patient but Medicare and Medicaid, which are paying almost 50% of all the bills. I had not seen that observation before, but it explains very well the relationship between hospital administration, patient, and third-party payer.

The author did a serious study of today’s hospital systems after his father died from a hospital-acquired infection and spent 5 weeks in an ICU.

So already government bureaucracies control most of what hospitals are allowed to do.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care


119 posted on 08/16/2009 6:30:27 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: TomGuy

My daughter hates ‘texting’, but her children live by it. I had rather pick up the phone and call the person.


120 posted on 08/16/2009 6:31:18 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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