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History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK)
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Posted on 08/06/2009 9:59:36 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: IrishMike

For those that know something about history, this isn’t a new revelation. As someone that lives in the South, it has only been within the last twenty years that the South has become predominately Republican. Democrats have always been the party that fought against civil rights but none of this matters. The vast majority of Americans know nothing about history, nor do they care to learn it. The Republicans will never get any credit for the advancement of civil rights for blacks. Perception is reality. The liberal democrats are seen as the political party for blacks and nothing in my lifetime will change that. The GOP will NEVER get more than ten percent of the black vote.


21 posted on 08/06/2009 10:59:27 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Jacquerie

Republican Presidents Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge were not Klan members. This is Dem disinformation.


22 posted on 08/06/2009 11:01:02 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: iowamark

Now a splinter arm of the KKK is ACORN


23 posted on 08/06/2009 11:20:17 AM PDT by crazyotto
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I wonder why an organization like the Klan arose? Was it due to an innate maliciousness found only in Southern whites? Did the Klan arise in response to external factors such as Reconstruction? It is easy just to say it was naughty-which it was.

Rent the movie, "Birth of a Nation" by DW Griffith. it is an interesting take on the start of the Klan. Ever hear statements like: "he was the first black elected to this seat since Reconstruction." During Reconstruction, a lot of carpetbaggers, (white and black Republicans from up North) came down South and stole elections outright. Both blacks and the Republican party in general were somewhat unpopular in the post Civil War South, so how else would they get elected?

The KKK was formed to make sure that everybody got a chance to vote, at least according to the Griffith movie. I don't know how true it is, but I have wondered how so many blacks got elected in that era. Remember in the movie, Sommersby, the black judge all but admitted that he got his position through questionable means.

24 posted on 08/06/2009 11:24:48 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The original group were Confederate veterans who had lost their voting rights for participating in the rebellion. Many of these men left the Klan when their rights were restored.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 11:30:44 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: sportutegrl
I don't know how true it is, but I have wondered how so many blacks got elected in that era.

Look at the suddenly enfranchised black populations of those states. In some states the slave population exceeded the free white population. In almost no slave state (outside the border states) were slaves less than a quarter of the population. They usually fall about 60/40.

On top of that, many men who fought for the south were now disenfranchised until they took an oath of allegiance, further suppressing the Democratic base.

Now, who do you think a just-freed slave is going to vote for? The party that was running things when he was a slave? Or the party that led to his freedom? A white who probably owned slaves himself a few years ago, or a fellow former slave?

26 posted on 08/06/2009 11:44:52 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("i'm FREQUENTLY wrong"--Stand Watie)
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To: CPT Clay
What do I say? I say the African-American race in America has been the victim of demagoguery and has suffered as no other race as a result.

I think the substance of the article is true. I've expressed my feelings as they relate to the Ku Klux Klan and General Forrest in my about page. Please note that page ends with what I hope is a transcendent note of repentance and forgiveness.

The irreplaceable predicate for forgiveness is repentance which my Bible tells me is a breaking of the heart, a true contrition, a turning away from sin, a change of behavior, and a new course. When the repentance is real and when the trespasser throws himself on the mercy of the eternal judge, the penitent absolutely receives forgiveness. I think this is applicable in the case of Nathan Bedford Forrest but is it applicable to the Democrat party and especially to the race pimps who demagogue this issue?

I'm not sure that it will avail anything by way of changing the black culture to recite the long course of American history in which the Democrat party condoned enslavement and segregation of African Americans. The time horizon of African-American voters is probably not more than a generation and I believe for most of them the world started with the inauguration of Barack Obama. But the author unaccountably fails to deal with more recent history. I don't think there are many community activists in the African-American world who will be easily moved by a review of 19th century politics. Nevertheless, a few reminders about more recent history would not be amiss for the rest of us.

In the sweep of American history the Democrat party as the other wrong side of slavery and the wrong side of segregation up until about the time of Franklin Roosevelt. Interestingly, it was Franklin Roosevelt cousin Teddy who scandalized society by entertaining at first African-American in the White House at dinner. Franklin Roosevelt himself was a patrician and probably a racist but his wife was the public face of the administration on the issue and she captured the hearts of America's Negroes. Harry Truman began seriously to take affirmative steps to undo Jim Crow, for example, he integrated the armed services and acted where he could on a federal level. Eisenhower was no less "correct" in his treatment of the subject but he was prudential and circumspect in the small steps of progress he made. He was nontheatrical, as distinguished from Eleanor Roosevelt, and so never won their hearts back. It was really not until John F. Kennedy, especially through the activities of his brother Robert, popularly understood through his phone call to Martin Luther King in jail that African-Americans began to move solidly into the Democratic camp. Lyndon Johnson, for all of his faults and crimes, was in fact the "Master of the Senate" and as majority leader and as President, Lyndon Johnson guided the great civil rights laws through the Congress-but only after having sabotaged them early on. As the article points out, Johnson had to make treaty with the Republicans against his own party and many instances to get his legislation through. But the popular perception among African-Americans is that it was Republicans who resisted civil right movement. And this impression has stuck to the point where nothing the Republicans can do it shake in the slightest this fixed opinion of 12% of our population about 10% of our voters.

Sensing this dichotomy, Johnson allegedly turned from signing the legislation into law and predicted, "we have lost the South for a generation." Nixon was accused by the left of concocting a Southern strategy based on bigotry. Actually Nixon was in many ways proactive on behalf of civil rights but the perception stood.

Much of this I think has to do with demographics and the great moves by Southern blacks off the sharecropping acres of the South to the great industrial factory towns of the North during the First and Second World Wars. At the end of that migration trail they found themselves in a new world in which the cities were utterly controlled by the bosses and the bosses were all Democrats. These bosses operated on patronage and the seduction of the African American race began as they were induced to become addicted to entitlements.

It is human nature to rationalize one's trespasses and it would be unnatural for a whole race to be possessed of the strength of character of a man like Nathan Bedford Forrest who demonstrated his physical courage and his moral convictions time and again throughout his tumultuous life. But such was his intellectual and moral honesty that in the end he came to the place where he honestly confronted his sins and repented of them. As the African-American "community" descended into a vortex of self-destruction fueled by entitlements, they were conveniently supplied with the demagoguery by their own preachers to rationalize the very behavior that was and is killing them.

It is not by accident that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are "reverends" because for generations the cloth was one of the very few paths out of the under class for blacks. If one thinks of the parish as a precinct and a preacher as a ward healer, the nexus from the Democrat bosses to the most important social institution in the African-American world becomes an easy connection. The bosses were corrupt and they were eager to suborn their ward healers. That meant that black preachers have to deliver the vote and to do that they have to engage in the demagoguery which we know only too well.

As the Democrats contrived to move control of patronage from city bosses to Congressional Committee Chairman, the allegiance of the African-American society moved to the national Democrat party from the local Democrat bosses. Every step of the transition was facilitated by demagoguery.

In the long sweep of American history the Democrat Party for most of its existence was on the wrong side of the original sin of America: slavery and segregation. Today, race demagoguery is big business and big politics. It becomes bigger and bigger as the Democrats manage to federalize everything. I believe it has just put an African-American in the White House. I know of no way that the demagoguery which so affects the African-American world can be washed clean because I see no disposition whatever in the demagogues to come clean.

That is another way of saying that I know of no way that African-Americans can be made to vote against the Democrat ticket for the foreseeable future. Therefore, Republicans and conservatives should look to different demographics. But most of all, Conservatives should articulate a conservative message which is so compelling that races of all flavors will be drawn to it.

The irony is that the Grand Kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan should present a model of repentance. The tragedy is that the men of God in the African American community do not.


27 posted on 08/06/2009 12:15:08 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

great post

Thanks


28 posted on 08/06/2009 12:36:18 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: iowamark; Morgana

Thanks for the correction. Nix Harding and Coolidge.


29 posted on 08/06/2009 12:50:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie (We live in a judicial tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: IrishMike

Blacks, Catholics and Jews plus republicans...


30 posted on 08/06/2009 5:04:36 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: IrishMike

Bump and a bookmark


31 posted on 08/07/2009 7:58:15 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Farmer Dean

Yes and now they have unions


32 posted on 06/22/2011 7:57:26 PM PDT by Angelrose
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34 posted on 12/22/2014 3:31:36 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Jeffs Politics

“To imply that they were liberal is absurd and illogical.”

Regardless, they WERE Democraps!


35 posted on 12/22/2014 3:38:00 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Jeffs Politics

Idiot troll. Don’t rely on re-written history for your “facts”.

Wonder how long until you get the Zot.


36 posted on 12/22/2014 3:57:53 PM PST by CARDINALRULES (Tough times never last -Tough people do. DK57 --RIP 6-22-02)
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To: CARDINALRULES; TheOldLady

He’s gone.


37 posted on 12/22/2014 4:01:04 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jeffs Politics; trisham; humblegunner; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; Arrowhead1952; LUV W; Eaker; ..

So long, Jeffs Politics (Posting History *NONE*)
Hat Tip to trisham, who pinged me
KKK apologist and tyrannical-democrat supporter loses his way
And ends up in the giant stew pot as Viking Kitty Lunch



Better luck next time... Or better, don't come back at all.



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

38 posted on 12/23/2014 7:01:31 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Cool graphic!


39 posted on 12/23/2014 7:17:52 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Big cat fractals are my favorite. ;-)

Thank you for the ping.


40 posted on 12/23/2014 7:22:38 AM PST by TheOldLady
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