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Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" - Date Accepted vs. Date Filed (Some clues)
DecaLogos ^ | February 8, 2009 | Mike C (Comment Section)

Posted on 07/30/2009 6:25:00 PM PDT by trueamerica

On the Decosta COLB (which no one alleges is a fake,) every field header matches that of the Obama COLB except for one. On hers it says : Date ACCEPTED By State Registrar. On Obamas it says Date FILED By Registrar (Notice not the state registrar, this would be the local one ). Two different things. Either that field header is forged in Obamas ( they are from the same form - OHSM 1.1 Revised (11/01) ) or it means his registration was FILED at that date BUT was not ACCEPTED. If you look at the long form copy of the birth certificate available online from 1963, Field 20 says : Date Accepted by Local Registrar. Field 22 says Date Accepted by Registrar General ( which is the State Registrar ).A change from accepted to filed are significant enough linguistic changes that a different form would have to be created. Legally, accepted and filed are two very different things. So both these phrase were used on the form depending on the circumstances.

This section of the Hawaii Revised Stautes explains why that would be used:

Sec 338-16 ( late registration defined ) d) When an applicant does not submit the minimum documentation required by the rules for late registration or “when the state registrar finds reasons to question the validity or adequacy of the certificate or the documentary evidence, the state registrar shall not register the late certificate and shall advise the applicant of the reason for this action.”

So, something entered on the long form was not verifiable and thus, it was not approved by the state. So assuming his online COLB is not fake ( or the forgers were just too incompetent to notice they put in the wrong field header ), all you have with his online COLB is a FILING, not an ACCEPTED certificate

Could this be what he is hiding?



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; nbc; obama; obamanoncitizenissue
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To: MHGinTN
Is your name or have you ever used the name ‘Steve Eddy’ and are you now or have you ever been connected to ‘Koyaan.wordpress’?

Nope, my name is Loren. I have recently exchanged some emails with Steve Eddy (who I believe lives on the opposite side of the country from me), but I am not him.

241 posted on 08/01/2009 4:48:13 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

What about your connections to ‘Koyaan.wordpress.com’? Let’s get this all on the record.


242 posted on 08/01/2009 4:50:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I have no connections to Koyaan.wordpress.com. I'm fairly certain that I have never so much as posted a comment there (as certain as I can be about a blog whose last update appears to be from last December).

And in the interests of full and open disclosure, in an e-mail sent to me this past week, Steve Eddy provided me with a jpeg that I included in a post on my blog. It's easy to tell which one.

243 posted on 08/01/2009 5:20:45 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

How much are you being paid, and is it taxable?


244 posted on 08/01/2009 5:45:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: Candor7

Paid for blogging? I have a couple of banner ads from Google Adsense that I make a pittance off of, but that’s it.


245 posted on 08/02/2009 5:59:46 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: BP2

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246 posted on 01/13/2010 1:04:17 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: pillut48

Here’s what it seems might have happened for Fukino to change her ambiguous & deliberately misleading statement from ‘I have seen the vital records’ to ‘have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record”
Hawaiian Revised Statutes.

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

Yes I know it was enacted in 1982.

Consider that Obama was not issued a Hawaiian BC from day one, granny may have lodged her statement claiming home birth in Hawaii and it got filed, and subsequently a newspaper listing entry was generated.

So it was ‘filed’, but not ‘accepted’, waiting some form of verification that quite possibly was not forth-coming.

Later down the track Obama finds a need to have some form of evidence of Hawaiian birth, so he gets issued the COLB marked as ‘filed’ but still not ‘accepted’, this suffices for the time being, hence Fukino’s ambiguous first statement ‘vital records’ and NOT ‘birth certificate’ at THAT TIME.

With the presidential election looming, Obama goes to Hawaii and applies for a birth certificate to be issued under 338-17.8

All he needs to ‘prove’ is that ‘that the legal parents’ ‘had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child’.

So granny signs an affidavit attesting to Obama’s parents’ residency requirements & granny had CONNECTIONS from way back.

Granny as the astute banker, etc that she was, had a high degree of credibility & trustworthiness in Hawaii.

HDoH accepts granny’s affidavit as ‘good enough for me’, so Obama gets his application in the system for issuance of a ‘real’ BC, hence Fukino came out with her follow-up statement where she could safely say ‘birth certificate on file’

So the ‘birth certificate’ may have been issued on the sole affidavit of granny, and Obama may very well have been born ‘out of state’, and to a British subject to boot.

It is also highly possible that Obama refuses to produce this BC for scrutiny, because it will have notations revealing the basis of it’s issue.


247 posted on 03/17/2011 5:34:39 AM PDT by thracker
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