As the above article says - what the state of Hawaii issued is good enough for any purpose to prove his citizenship.
As the article above says: The grandmother never did say she witnessed his birth - you can read the actual transcript - the complete transcript - of the telephone call for yourself and you'll see she confirms he was born in hawaii.
The idea that Obama has spent millions hiding his certificate is false. The idea that he is shelling out money hand over fist is often used as an argument - but the attorneys have all done the work pro-bono (they are attorneys donating their time to the democratic party) or have been attorneys employed by the justice department. It isn't costing him a thing.
There are people who say even if he was born in Hawaii, he still isn't natural born - because hawaii was not a state (it was), because his mother had to live in the US first years after he was born (she doesn't), because his father was a british subject, because his mom wasn't yet 18 (she was). Head over to
www.usconstituion.net - and read for yourself what does and does not constitute a natural born citizen.
So why not just show the long form? Assuming he has it - I don't have mine, for instance - but I do have a "short form" that I requested when I joined the military a lifetime ago, The immediate answer that comes to my mind is that it works much better for Obama to have his opposition embroiled in our own little "9/11 Truther" - something that really doesn't stand a chance of doing any damage - but will keep us conservatives occupied. And if it does get blown up big - say next month - won't it be great for the Dems to have every news network do a special investigation and come up with the same damn stuff on national tv that any of us can just by going through google? Because you know they aren't going to dig any deeper - just a visit to fact check, urban legends.com, snopes, and a constitutional lawyer talking about what is and isn't a natural born citizen. We'd look like idiots, he'll seem that much shinier, and the dems will use the honey moon to roll over a few of our rinos who'll not want to be seen as being on the side of the "birthers." In the end, we'll just have gone a long way towards getting a few of his special projects passed - like tax hikes, socialized medicine, and re-criminalizing of wealth and success.
And of course you ignore the fact that his father was NOT an American citizen. How do you define ‘natural born citizen’?
never said the granny said and the officer was in FL not GA, that is a line the left sheep use.
I said two members of his family said they saw him born there.
There is a [place which says bozo was born there in Kenya.
Forgetting everything even him fighting to not show it and yes he has.
Why doesn’t he show it?
Do you not find the visit to see granny AFTER her hospital visit strange, he loves her so much like he said why did he not go to her funeral or when she first went into hospital.
To date he has not even been to her grave.
He went the same time when the court in HI was looking at this issue.
No matter how many times the left tries to justify all of this I come up with mroe questions than answers.
Like I said I do not know but this is really simple even for a community trouble maker.
Show it and his past records.
No use sitting there lie the media does and saying yes we checked it , we looked at the paper on his website
ARF
Didn’t dig much did ya.
please tell me that one of the links was a joke, right???????
They recorded a conversation and in it his granny said he was born in HI.
Please
Why were they taping it?
Who did record it?
Why was this released?
See more questions than answers
The long form would answer these questions. Where is the long form?
Since you’ve done so much research on this, maybe you can help me. I just want to know two things:
1) Is it true, or not true... that in 1961, people NOT born in Hawaii could get a COLB (Certification of Live Birth). This is the only document we have seen. If it was possible that people NOT born in Hawaii could get one of these things... then, it’s NOT PROOF! So... could they? Or not?
2) Who? Which “official” government body has the responsibility for vetting such things... like, whether a candidate for Prez a NBC?? So far, all I see is... “an oath” from the candidate, and a bunch of certification from party officials. I mean, really?? Is that all that’s required?
I agree with your conclusion: This is ‘most likely’ nothing more than a ruse to keep opponents riled up and looking ‘kooky’. But, why should it be allowed? Why doesn’t the President need to offer “proof” of elgibility?? It’s not “kooky” to want to know.
Of course... if the answer to #1 above is “Not True”... then, this issue is over for me. But, that remains THE KEY question.
one question....Why is the certificate number on the COLB BLACKED OUT?
The SCOTUS hasn’t ruled on the definition of “is”, but I think most of us have an understanding of it’s meaning.
Well, you certainly didn't pre-judge, or harbor any bias toward this issue when you "finally set down and did the whole digging thing", did you?
I suggest you keep "digging". It appears that so far, you've done little more than uncover the flimsy excuses in favor of Obama's eligibility.