Posted on 07/27/2009 11:12:35 AM PDT by Danae
Ok here is a theory.
To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.
My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).
Stick with me through what follows.
Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.
Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.
So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.
Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.
A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.
So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...
Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.
Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.
But I digress.
OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.
Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?
Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.
Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!
So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.
Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.
Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.
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Tear the theory apart please!
In what way and on what? I though that a few people were running off on the keyboard about my credibility? If I am not credible, then what the heck use am I? Other than pissed at having that credibility attacked.
Can you get a shovel from Rahm Emanuel and bury Jim Thompson? LOL /s
The counties definitely turned bluer,
http://www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/election_night/countymap.html
but...
The race really wasn’t that close. McCain lost by approx 10 million popular vote, and got buried in the electoral vote.
Black population by states:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_tot_bla_pop-people-total-black-population
I haven’t yet found a black vote by state.
Approx 15.9 million blacks voted. Mostly in states that would have gone RAT anyway.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1209/racial-ethnic-voters-presidential-election
I don’t know anything about attributes. I just scan the document, save it to my computer, and then upload it to photobucket. Thats it. I don’t know anything other than that.
the only thing she will do issue you another for $12. I had to do the same when I misplaced mine.
What have you used this document for? Job, Goverment Clearance, Passport?
When there is such a stark difference between 2 stories, that usually is a breaking point in an investigation. Either we’ve all been hoodwinked by Polarik since the beginning and he’s got us seeing pink elephants in the sky or your story doesn’t add up. I don’t see how both could be true. Maybe that revision 11/01 only means it was the eleventh revision by the first guy who tried it or something like that. Either way, what you’ve posted here will be valuable in the end game.
Those of you who doubt O’s birth status, help me here.
When a missionary has a kid overseas, the kid is a natural born American because his or her mother is a American citizen.
O’s mom was an American. So, even if he was born in Africa, he is still a natural born American (born of an American citizen). That is the legal definition according to my lawyer (wife).
You keep saying I am calling you a liar. Why? I am questioning the document.
The discrepencies are pretty glaring. Right?
No, she actually told me that I could send her in the one I have and she would send me a new o ne. She did not mention at all that she would charge me for it or that there would be any fee. She just said send it in and I will send you a new one.
Believe me, she thought it was strange as well! She went and physically looked at all of the machines in the office (3 of them) and the one in the mail room is the one where mine was printed because of the date above Onaka’s signature. Its the only printer they have that does it like that she told me. So she told me that it was printed in the mail room as one would expect as it was a mailed in request. The 2007 date she can not explain, nor can I. But she would replace it for me she said. I figured it was a better idea to keep it, and I think it is obvious as to why.
Reminds me of the Mayan Doomsday calender. I don't think it ended for any reason other than the guy who was making it got to that date and said “Hey, this thing looks like it could go on forever, I quit!” “You find someone else to finish this thing”. lol
I used it to recreate my identity when I had my wallet stolen. You name it, it was used for a lot of things. As it is, I did not use it to get a job or a clearance or a passport.
Why would that matter?
tell her you lost it and you need a new one. Kind of like removing the tags off a blanket or pillow.
I see. That makes sense. All I know is that this is the original document that I got from the State of Hawaii. I wish I knew if I could get a letter from the state saying when this COLB was ordered and that it indeed the only document that has ever been requested for me. That would be the killing blow to Polarik’s theory of me and my COLB.
Unless the mom was under 18 and had not resided in the US for what was it 4 or 5 years before giving birth.
Only to a skeptical eye, such as those here. You do understand why we are jaundiced, don’t you?
What would that prove?
Seriously? What good would that do?
I was referring to Polarik and MGHinTN. Sorry if there is any confusion on that. My bad!
I under skepticism. But calling someone a Liar, that’s a whole other ball of wax in my book. Particularly as I take my honesty, honor, and credibility, somewhat seriously! I may be crazy, but I am not a liar. I take offense to that.
I have tried to scan this again at 2400, I don’t have the HP software for my scanner. My husband said to just use the windows software that I have with Office XP. He is the computer guy, he is a software architect and engineer. Not me. Anyway, it barfs on 2400 dpi, it gives me an error saying that the document can’t be created? No clue, I will try 1200, that’s the only other option I have.
Ok I have tried to save it and redact it using Paint.net, which is totally barfing. I don’t know how to get this scanned in at any resolution higher than 600 dpi. Also FR seems to be down.
Odd timing that.
I under skepticism. But calling someone a Liar, that’s a whole other ball of wax in my book. Particularly as I take my honesty, honor, and credibility, somewhat seriously! I may be crazy, but I am not a liar. I take offense to that.
I have tried to scan this again at 2400, I don’t have the HP software for my scanner. My husband said to just use the windows software that I have with Office XP. He is the computer guy, he is a software architect and engineer. Not me. Anyway, it barfs on 2400 dpi, it gives me an error saying that the document can’t be created? No clue, I will try 1200, that’s the only other option I have.
Ok I have tried to save it and redact it using Paint.net, which is totally barfing. I don’t know how to get this scanned in at any resolution higher than 600 dpi. Also FR seems to be down.
Odd timing that.
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