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5 freedoms you'd lose in health care reform(The fine print is truly Hell)
fortune ^ | 7/24/09 | Shawn Tully,

Posted on 07/24/2009 12:43:31 PM PDT by bestintxas

In promoting his health-care agenda, President Obama has repeatedly reassured Americans that they can keep their existing health plans -- and that the benefits and access they prize will be enhanced through reform.

A close reading of the two main bills, one backed by Democrats in the House and the other issued by Sen. Edward Kennedy's Health committee, contradict the President's assurances. To be sure, it isn't easy to comb through their 2,000 pages of tortured legal language. But page by page, the bills reveal a web of restrictions, fines, and mandates that would radically change your health-care coverage.

If you prize choosing your own cardiologist or urologist under your company's Preferred Provider Organization plan (PPO), if your employer rewards your non-smoking, healthy lifestyle with reduced premiums, if you love the bargain Health Savings Account (HSA) that insures you just for the essentials, or if you simply take comfort in the freedom to spend your own money for a policy that covers the newest drugs and diagnostic tests -- you may be shocked to learn that you could lose all of those good things under the rules proposed in the two bills that herald a health-care revolution

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; communism; congress; democrathealthcare; democrats; health; healthcare; liberalfascism; lping; marxism; obamacare; pelosi; rahm; socialism; socializedmedicine
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To: bestintxas

This is an excellent article that gives a brief overview.

It leaves out all the cost considerations, which are of course huge, but does talk about the “soft tyranny” of this government takeover.


21 posted on 07/24/2009 6:09:37 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: bestintxas

Wait, this is from CNN???? Someone is going to get fired.


22 posted on 07/24/2009 7:45:25 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Danae

Yeah, right. When was the last time Republicans ever repealed anything?


23 posted on 07/24/2009 7:48:04 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Still Thinking

Uh........ That might take some research on the Deep web....... Some time before I was born??

Do I win a prize?


24 posted on 07/24/2009 8:41:46 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Still Thinking
That's what I was thinking - wow, CNN.

You know fascism is knocking at the door when they put out something like this.

25 posted on 07/24/2009 8:57:41 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Danae

With you loud and clear. It is amazing to me that anyone even bothers posting anything else right now.
This is the last nail in the coffin and I just don’t see how it will keep from being nailed in.


26 posted on 07/24/2009 8:59:03 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Honestly I don’t either, other than to keep calling and promising to make DAMN sure that the bastards that vote for it get kicked in the A$$ so hard when re-election comes along they wont be able to use a toilet for a month. Of course I don’t use that sort of language, but I make it LOUD and clear I will be donating all I can to WHOMEVER runs against them in the effort to see them fired.

I am going to get appointed a committee chairperson in my district and I will work for candidates running against David Wu in a deliberate effort to get him fired in the Socialist city of Portland Oregon.

This is the last straw for me, I am in a FIGHTING mood now and only their demise will slake my thirst for their defeat. This district is about 4 times the size of the city, and a LOT of people are flat out PISSED OFF now. Even the grocery store checkers, who normally wont say a peep about politics are OPENLY talking about this democrat BS! Thats sayin something!


27 posted on 07/24/2009 9:15:52 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Danae

I’m reaching the age and degree of wealth where I need to make a will. I have no kids or siblings, so the next closest family members are cousins. I have two sets of first cousins, one on my mother’s side and one on my stepfather’s. The ones on my mother’s side, my blood relatives, are uniformly liberal. They were raised by uniformly liberal parents and followed in their footsteps. My other cousins, on my stepdad’s side, are the exact opposite. They’re both well-mannered, good, conservative young men (they’re a lot younger than I am).

Well, I’ve decided. My blood cousins are getting nothing. NOTHING. It’s bad enough that over the years they’ve consistently voted to steal from me and make me less safe. Even worse, they’ve never been the brightest bulbs on the planet and take the stands they take because it’s how they were taught to feel, not due to any actual thought.

And now, they’ve voted for a guy who is intent on ramming through a socialized health care plan THAT WILL SHORTEN MY LIFESPAN. Well, if they’re going to put me into the grave sooner because of their “feelings”, they DAMN sure won’t benefit from it. Everything is going to go to my other cousins, and blood be damned.


28 posted on 07/24/2009 9:25:16 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: bestintxas

29 posted on 07/24/2009 9:30:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (We are here and it is now. Further than that all human knowledge is moonshine.)
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To: MarMema

CNN’s reporters will have to use ObamaCare too. And the more they research it the less they like it.


30 posted on 07/24/2009 9:45:14 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Danae

Yeah, you get the Republican legislator of your choice. It’s sort of a booby prize.


31 posted on 07/24/2009 10:02:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: bestintxas

Unfortunately, most of the responses at the end of the article seem to support universal health care. How dumb are these people?


32 posted on 07/24/2009 10:54:49 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: Still Thinking

“Wait, this is from CNN???? Someone is going to get fired.

They’re too busy trying to fire Lou Dobbs right now.

This will come later.


33 posted on 07/25/2009 5:34:32 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
If they fire Lou Dobbs, they might as well turn off the lights.

sw

34 posted on 07/25/2009 5:40:35 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: bestintxas

“Healthy life-style” will be defined by these #%^&.

Male homosexuals have an average life expectancy just a less than 60 years, much worse than smokers.

But will that very expensive “life-style” ever be questioned by Obamacare?


35 posted on 07/25/2009 5:52:05 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: bestintxas

Lemming Obots refuse to believe that the messiah would let this happen!
The damn fools ...


36 posted on 07/25/2009 6:24:15 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: bestintxas

One thing we conservatives should be doing is getting this information out there via our own Facebooks. I put this on mine and in 3 hours had a half dozen acquaintances - who are quite liberal- emailing me in disbelief. One even went so far as to say that if this passes, he will never vote Democratic again.

Let’s face it....the mainstream media is NOT going to report on this. Now it’s time for the Pajama media to take over and do the job


37 posted on 07/25/2009 7:29:32 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

I just emailed the info so my older relatives and friends.


38 posted on 07/25/2009 7:38:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: bestintxas

PING YOUR PEEPS!

Blistering grassroots pressure appears to have forced Sen.
Majority Leader Harry Reid to seek some emergency relief by
announcing there would be no health care vote until after
the August recess.

But is it really good news?

Any delay is good, but Reid’s actions are little more than
political misdirection—a ploy to release some of the built
up pressure while the “dirty details” of ObamaCare can be
worked out and tidied up in the Senate Finance Committee.

Reid’s carefully calculated actions prove to me that we
are making a powerful—even historic impact! Imagine
the day after day deluge of petitions, faxes, phone
calls pummeling the Energy and Commerce committee—with
no end in sight!

Keith, we are overwhelming lawmakers.

With Obama breathing down his back demanding he get this done,
Reid had to do something to neutralize us. But that’s precisely
why we can’t fall for his “pressure release ploy.”

No, it’s paramount that we not allow Reid to silence us.

With ObamaCare now being worked on in the Senate Finance Committee,
I want to overwhelm them with a tsunami of protest from grassroots
Americans who refuse to allow the federal government to increase
their control over us by co-opting our health care system.

++ EMERGENCY Petition Delivery Wednesday!

Last week we directed petitions to multiple targets.
On Wednesday they will be delivered to the Senate Finance committee—
demonstrating to Reid and everyone else that
WE WILL NOT GO AWAY. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

I’m asking ALL members of our team to help me rally an additional
50,000 citizen signers this weekend to help maximize our Wednesday
delivery by pushing us past the 300,000 mark!

Forward this message to 30-40 friends and family. Inform them
about Reid’s “pressure release ploy” and underscore to each the
importance of taking immediate action by signing our petition
and having a real voice in this unfolding and historic debate.

Click here to be included in our next delivery:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=20491&PID=21718877

As the sordid details of ObamaCare leak out to the public it’s
becoming increasingly clear the true intent of this plan is to
exercise more control over the citizens of our nation.

Take immediate action with me by rallying your friends and family
today so that I can include them in our next delivery to Capitol
Hill this coming Wednesday!

Again, thank you in advance for your incredible support.

Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org

P.S: It’s the ObamaCare chart Democrats don’t want you to see.
In fact, they have outrageously refused Republicans to send it
out to their constituents! We have the chart, and we urge you
to take a close look. After review, we’re pretty certain you’ll
understand why Democrats don’t want it going out to the
American public!

Click here to see the contentious ObamaCare chart:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=20491&PID=21718877


39 posted on 07/25/2009 8:00:45 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

Don’t miss post #3!


40 posted on 07/25/2009 10:38:22 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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