Obama Presidential Eligibility - An Introductory Primer

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[reynols]

Despite the mainstream news media's silence regarding this matter, an increasing number of Americans are concerned that Barack Obama might not be eligible, under the Constitution, to serve as President.

According to the U.S. Constitution, an individual born after 1787 cannot legally or legitimately serve as U.S. President unless he or she is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

Among members of Congress and the mainstream news media, the consensus of opinion is that anyone born in the United States is a "natural born citizen". However, when we researched this issue a bit more carefully, we found that the consensus opinion is not consistent with American history.

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With only two exceptions, every American President, who was born after 1787, was born in the United States, to parents who were both U.S. citizens. The two exceptions were Chester Arthur and Barack Obama. When Chester Arthur ran for office, the public did not know about his eligibility problem. Only recently did historians learn that, when Arthur was born, his father was not a U.S. citizen. The 2008 election was the first time in history that the United States knowingly elected a President who was born after 1787 and whose parents were not both U.S. citizens.

[reynols]

Of all the articles and blogs I've read about President Obama's eligibility to POTUS, this one seems to have the most complete and well researched information on the subject.

[penelopesire]

Cool. Thanks for the link. I didn’t know us ‘birthers’ had a website either...lol. Going back to reading what is on this link.

[Just A Nobody]

Have you seen The Obama File?

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm

[webschooner]

I’m not an expert on this, but I disagree. In #17, regarding the issue of Obama’s COLB released on the Internet, the author does not state that a most, or at least a wide segment of so-called “birthers”, assert that this COLB is a fraudulent photo-shopped digital document.

To not even mention this point, means the author is leaving out major important bits of information of the controversy. Therefore, his “primer”, is incomplete.

[sthguard]

Thanks for posting this.

[Milton Miteybad]

True. This is a fine analysis. Definitely recommended reading.

[Woebama]

Very good link. Thank you. Put in favorites.

[Woebama]

Very good link. Thank you. Put in favorites.

[penelopesire]

What I found of note in this(besides the history,etc.) is the fact that whoever wrote this blog is promoting the idea of taking this to the DC District Court because of some law that is cited here:

“The DC District Court has the authority to investigate the eligibility of a sitting President. The DC District Court received this authority from Congress when Congress passed the Federal Quo Warranto Statute in 1901 and revised it, in 1963, to its present form.

The Federal Quo Warranto Statute is thoroughly explained in this three-part series:

Quo Warranto — Part 1

Quo Warranto — Part 2

Quo Warranto — Part 3

A Quo Warranto inquiry is not a prosecution. It does not accuse Barack Obama of breaking any law. The inquiry is a civil proceeding, not a criminal one. In a Quo Warranto inquiry, the DC District Court would say to Barack Obama something to this effect (loosely paraphrased):”

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This is very concerning to me(because of the political makeup of DC) and I have deep reservations about this idea. Especially in light of the mysterious resigning of Jeffery Taylor:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/us-attorney-jeffrey-taylor-resigns/

It sounds like this blogger assumes that the case would then go to the Supremes to determine the constitutional issues after the district court in DC determined his birth status, but that is not a guarantee at all and could in fact be a trap. A trap to allow this case to be settled favorably for Obama as well as to allow him and his accomplices to get away with possible document tampering and fraud in regards to the phony document that they put on the Obama website.

What say you?

I don’t know much about the courts,etc. but just the idea of having a bunch of political and/or government people in DC decide this monumental case leaves me cold and more than a little paranoid.

[muddler]

“If you cannot or will not show the Court, beyond reasonable doubt, that you are eligible to be President, this Court has the power and the authority to remove you from office.”

Sounds good but......true?

[STARWISE]

That’s Leo Donofrio .. ;)

[penelopesire]

Who is Stephen Tonchen? He wrote the ‘Introductory Primer’ piece. Is he connected to Donofrio?

[Signalman]

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6347&posts=1

[STARWISE]

That I don’t know .. sure a lot of sites that reference him.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=stephen+tonchen+obama&btnG=Google+Search

[reynols]

I found the link on the “Natural Born Citizen” site, http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

[penelopesire]

Yep..I saw that in the google too. One or two links went to DU, where the moonbats thought he was ‘reasonable’...lol. That’s a red flag as far as I’m concerned....lol. It might be paranoid thinking on my part..but I don’t trust the DC District Court AT ALL!! You just know it is made up of liberal political class elites.

[real_patriotic_american]

You might want to research the description of “natural born citizen” here (14th Amendment):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2299541/posts

Ecerpt:
“As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt. The question now that we seek answered is that Barack Hussein Obama, II is both the child of an alien who never had any intention on becoming a naturalized citizen and the child of a citizen minor. If Barack Hussein Obama, II was in fact born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under Jus soli and afforded all rights any citizen has. But he is not a citizen under Jus sanguinis, because we have laws that dictate how Jus sanguinis citizenship can be transferred. If Barack Hussein Obama, II cannot claim citizenship under Jus sanguinis then he is not a natural born citizen.”

[Eye of Unk]

WND has "A Question of Eligibility" a movie thats available to order and is being ready to ship on Obamas birthday.