Posted on 07/19/2009 9:32:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
What to make of Ron Paul? The word erratic comes to mind. On domestic spending, he is a righteous guardian of small government, while on foreign affairs he is a dangerous isolationist who believes the world will leave us alone if we just tend to our own knitting. And as far as Sarah Palin and her supporters go, he is a space cadet, apparently.
An interview with Politico published today contains this startling assertion from Paul:
'As for soon-to-be departing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Paul dismisses her supporters as "more establishment, conventional Country-Club type of Republicans."'
This is odd indeed, detached from reality as it is. Sarah Palin is about as far from a country club Republican as one can find. And Texas sources indicate:
And if you were to check the membership rolls of the Lake Jackson Country Club here in Texas, I'd bet real money that you would find the names of Ron Paul and his wife Carol listed as lifetime members.
The assertion of The Pauls belonging to this country club is supported by other bloggers as well. Representative Paul (also an OB/GYN, by the way) should address the question of his alleged country club membership, if he is going to throw around this label.
Could it be that Ron Paul is jealous of Sarah Palin's popular support?
You are good at getting something out of someone’s words that was not there.
Did I reveal who I voted for in 2008? No. I said the country rejected neo-con ideology, which it did.
Did I say I was “anti-war”? No. I said we need to shift our foriegn policy to that of a non-interventionist (not “isolationist”).
Your remarks about the constitution are not very clear, but I think you are saying the Constitution is a relic, or posibly that it is combersome to the progressive world? Could you clear that up? Thanks :D
Oh, and I just love war! Every man who has ever fought in a war will tell you the same thing too. We all just loved it...sheesh What kind of a...ah nevermind
Have fun at your meeting.
Why are you not trumpeting Duncan Hunter or some other solidly conservative candidate who would make a better president than Palin? Is it Palin’s name recognition?
Yes, the title of this thread and the article is a flat-out lie. "The American Thinker" and Politico seemed to have double-teamed to run interference on behalf of the Federal Reserve. The media falsehood is easy to detect and yet Paul detractors bought it hook, line, and sinker.
At the bottom of a wide-ranging interview, Politico reports:
Politico article: As for soon-to-be departing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Paul dismisses her supporters as "more establishment, conventional Country-Club type of Republicans.”
"I wonder whether she's energizing the 15-20 year olds," Paul muses. "That would be a question I would have. Because she doesn't talk about the Federal Reserve and some of these issues. She doesn't talk too much about personal liberties, civil liberties, getting rid of drug laws, attacking the war on drugs, punishing people who torture."
Notice the headliner about "Country-Club type of Republicans" is not even quoted as a full sentence. That is highly suspicious.
Palin and Paul are natural allies so it should be no surprise that the media tries to drive a wedge between them. If Palin joins in supporting Ron Paul's campaign to audit the Fed, we suddenly have the cultural-populist/libertarian/blue-dog alliance necessary for a conservative prairie fire.
Nice work, Kells. You know how to parse the media b.s.!!!
Hey Ron, go tack on another juicy Earmark for your district to the next Bill that's gonna pass and then "show us your courageous stand" by voting against it... (even though you know its going to pass!)
Ron, can you spell 'hypocrite"? I know you can...
The fact you asked that question shows how truly politically clueless you are.
Thanks
Thanks! Expect more media misdirection on the Fed Audit in the weeks and months ahead.
There is a fellow I work with, was injured in 2004 in Iraq, has a cluster of “Obama / Biden” and “Vets for Obama” stickers on the back of his truck, and was insufferable during and right after the election shilling for the Messiah.
Proof that Military Service, as much as I respect it, is no guarantee of political acumen...
You expressed your opinion by enlisting. For the duration of your agreed enlistment, the policy decisions were no longer in your hands even as to you. You could serve or be court-martialed and punished if your constitutional pretensions motivated you to refuse obedience. The military is not an anarchy, not a democracy, not a republic but a disciplined force that necessarily submerges and suppresses your individual idiosyncracies in a common effort as you knew when you enlisted.
The constitution is a bit more complicated than the paleoPaulie stick figure version. Or than the delusional Libertoonian version (based on each anarchist singing I gotta be me).
Gee, you don't seem any better informed on Stalinism or on America than you are about the constitution.
The Bircher/Libertoonian fantasy of (whether you admit it or not) rank despicable isolationism may have worked in Washington's time for a verrrry fledgling nation primarily dependent on an ocean for its defense and even mqy have been a species of wisdom way back then. Baby elephants, like baby countries, are not in a very good position to throw their weight around. They tend to fly under radar to develop their resources. We have developed our resources. We needn't shun opportunities to put a stop to thugs wherever they are found. Nits become lice. We should have attacked Stalin as well as Hitler and Mussolini and Tojo.
If you are looking for those with Stalinist policies, try the real thing: the McGovern crowd, the various antiwar movements that facilitated soviet communism for soooooo very long. The best way of handling Stalin would have been to drive the Nazi army before us into Russia, let the main fighting be between Hitler and Stalin and then mop up the remains of both enemies.
Your "Was it worth...."question is pure John Kerry and no more American which is to say outright anti-American. Some of your buds died in wars??? Verrrrry few wars are ever fought without death and other casualties. You did not figure that out before enlisting???
If you think you love liberty, go find something worth doing like ending abortion or ending lavender marriage make-believe or abolishing gummint skewels (the parochial schools of the anti-American left. Of course, I would be presuming that you might be pro-life or pro-family or pro-truth in education. Since you apparently favor the ilk of the paleos and Paulie in particular, that is no guarantee.
I love certain aspects of the American government as exceptions to the rule. The Ohio National Guardsmen at Kent State in 1970; the Strategic Air Command; the late Air Force Chief of Staff General Curtis Lemay; General George Patton; the RTKBA; Ronald Reagan for whom I served as a state chairman when he challenged feckless paleopeaceweasel and babykiller Gerald Ford.
The constitution largely died in the 1930s after FDR threatened to pack the SCOTUS with New Deal ideologues of the left. Read the dissents of McReynolds, Sutherland, van de Vanter and Butler. There have been a few small resurrections such as the DC RTKBA case. There have been foul latter day developments such as rights to lavender nuptials and to kill unborn children.
Now we have one purporting to speak for “every man who has ever fought in a war.” Paleos: The crackpot wing of American politics.
I think the punctuation was wrong.
He must have said: “Country, (Gun-)Club Republicans”
Just like I love it when people say things like “real Americans” because their opinions are not the same as mine. I don’t want to mention any names...er..black elk
BE, I think that you and I could actually have a lot in common, but your method of communicating your point is self-defeating.
You think that everyone with a different way of looking at things is an enemy of the state, and quite frankly, you are wrong.
I think that the state has a lot of problems that need to be addressed, and I am here on the FR to discuss that. I don’t mind being wrong, if it helps us all realize the truth.
I agree with your perspective on FDR and the USC. I think that is the biggest problem that we as a country face today.
There are other problems that we need to address as well, but resetting the USG to a constitutionally limited govt is the biggest challenge we face.
At this time, I think the things that RP has said about US foreign policy, and auditing the Fed are the kinds of reform that would help get the national debt paid down.
The national debt is how much...$60,000,000,000,000?
To continue operating this country the way we have been is suicidal. Something has to be done to pay off the debt.
If you have some other ideas on how to do that, then by all means, let us hear it.
Have you ever seen this documentary called I.O.U.S.A.?
Here’s part 1 of 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcgjC5nVb8
The rest of the film is in the “related videos” section.
The US debt is unsustainable.
This is another one of the most important issues of our lifetimes. If we don’t do something about it, the US is likely to default and become irrelevant.
That is not something that I want for my country, and I know you don’t either.
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