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To: BlackElk

BE, I think that you and I could actually have a lot in common, but your method of communicating your point is self-defeating.

You think that everyone with a different way of looking at things is an enemy of the state, and quite frankly, you are wrong.

I think that the state has a lot of problems that need to be addressed, and I am here on the FR to discuss that. I don’t mind being wrong, if it helps us all realize the truth.

I agree with your perspective on FDR and the USC. I think that is the biggest problem that we as a country face today.

There are other problems that we need to address as well, but resetting the USG to a constitutionally limited govt is the biggest challenge we face.

At this time, I think the things that RP has said about US foreign policy, and auditing the Fed are the kinds of reform that would help get the national debt paid down.

The national debt is how much...$60,000,000,000,000?

To continue operating this country the way we have been is suicidal. Something has to be done to pay off the debt.

If you have some other ideas on how to do that, then by all means, let us hear it.

Have you ever seen this documentary called I.O.U.S.A.?

Here’s part 1 of 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcgjC5nVb8

The rest of the film is in the “related videos” section.

The US debt is unsustainable.

This is another one of the most important issues of our lifetimes. If we don’t do something about it, the US is likely to default and become irrelevant.

That is not something that I want for my country, and I know you don’t either.


239 posted on 07/21/2009 6:57:39 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: camp_steveo
Preliminarily, putting a stop to the American Holocaust of 50+ million American babies by surgical abortion alone takes precedence over defense of documents.

Second, use of the military to destroy those who would destroy our country also takes precedence. No sovereignty means no constitution.

We probably do have a lot in common but restoration of a long lost constitution or one that has resembled swiss cheese for a very long time is going to be a verrrrry long process. We cannot tolerate the slaughter of the infants or the destruction of the country while working to restore the constitution.

I think that people who would make the enemy's arguments to our people in time of well-justified war are, in fact, mouthpieces for the enemy. They may or may not realize the perfidy that they perpetrate. It does not matter what their subjective view may be. The objective reality is what counts. The things that Ron Paul has said about foreign policy are a rank disgrace and a more sensible nation would set him adrift in international waters in a leaky barge as a man without a country. Ancient Athens would have had him drink hemlock as punishment for his attempts to corrupt youth. Imagine what Sparta might have done to him.

I have taken for granted for nearly forty years that our economic situation and the addiction of public officials (including Paulie Earmarks) to grotesque wastes of taxpayer resources will necessitate the eventual bankruptcy of this nation.

The good news is that once the US bankrupts, no nation in its right mind would be caught dead extending credit again to the US. State and municipal bonds won't be very easy to issue either, getting rid of another entire class of often well-intentioned but damaging barnacles, sapping our nation, states, counties and municipalities but most importantly sapping our people.

$60 trillion is only money. It pales by comparison with the slicing, dicing and hamburgerization of even one innocent unborn.

I have taken a while to respond even to this extent and I will respond further in recognition of the more serious nature of your post to which I am replying.

It will take a while for me to see IOUSA on a very slow computer. I have see the first segment which looks like a lot of stuff I saw in my youth as a conservative. It won't make much of an impact if it an argument for a green-eye shaded, sleeve gartered America with little mission, no romance, no passion, no mission and no conscience, dedicated to protecting nothing more important than the coupon clippers in the back room at the Main Street Bank and Trust.

No nation with our resources is risking irrelevancy. We just have to re-organize after the bankruptcy, focus on the military, repudiate treaties that limit our national discretion, eliminate welfare state squandering, sever the stranglehold of SCOTUS, provide judicial term limits of short duration, eliminate Congressional squabbling over war strategy and a wide array of other actual reforms.

Libertarianism is an incomplete "philosophy" and inadequate for a major (or probably any other) nation's governance.

Resistance to war in times of war is NOT just a different way of looking at things and reflects a dangerous enmity against not merely the government but the nation and its people. If George Washington lost the revolution, he would have likely been hanged as a traitor to Great Britain. He won the revolution and a good thing too.

249 posted on 07/21/2009 11:06:35 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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