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Report: Bush surveillance program was massive
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/09 | Pamela Hess - ap

Posted on 07/10/2009 5:12:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The Bush administration built an unprecedented surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still too secret to reveal.

The report, compiled by five inspectors general, refers to "unprecedented collection activities" by U.S. intelligence agencies under an executive order signed by President George W. Bush after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Just what those activities involved remains classified, but the IGs pointedly say that any continued use of the secret programs must be "carefully monitored."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; counterterrorism; fisa; massive; surveillance
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To: Two Ravens

Our Constitution applies to our citizens. You are a liberal troll.


61 posted on 07/10/2009 6:56:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: doc1019

The only freedom I gave up after 9/11 was that I waited a bit longer in the airports.....


62 posted on 07/10/2009 6:58:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: SeattleBruce
Bush surveillance program was massive...

And not a single documented instance where a citizen's rights were violated. Not a single claim that some one was harmed by the surveillance. Well done.

63 posted on 07/10/2009 6:59:11 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: Two Ravens
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

--Benjamin Franklin

Nice quote, but who gave up any liberty? Explain....

64 posted on 07/10/2009 7:00:56 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Two Ravens
Stop quoting the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and at the same time you are advocating rights for the terrorists whose only goal is to destroy our country and everything we stand for. You are making our Founding Fathers turn in their graves. For certain if you lived during the time of our Founding Fathers you would have be hanged for Treason.
65 posted on 07/10/2009 7:01:09 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Old North State

Amen and God Bless President Bush.


66 posted on 07/10/2009 7:01:51 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Our Constitution applies to our citizens. You are a liberal troll.

You can't agree with our conservative Founders that all men are endowed by their Creator with inalienable (look it up) rights?

And you're calling me a liberal?

Oh, this is rich; I really have to show this to the wife when she gets home

67 posted on 07/10/2009 7:02:13 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: NormsRevenge

What the h3ll would one expect......we were attacked by radical thugs.


68 posted on 07/10/2009 7:03:14 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Two Ravens

i’m pretty sure thomas jefferson would have been gung ho about going after terrorists and would have done exactly what Bush did...


69 posted on 07/10/2009 7:06:20 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: Two Ravens
The U. S. Constitution applies to U.S. citizens. You cannot be that ignorant.
70 posted on 07/10/2009 7:08:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Our conservative Founders said all men and they meant all men. Resorting to "penumbras" and other such foolishness to thwart the plain-spoken meanings of the Founders is the liberal way.

They said exactly what they meant, and I'm not the one trying to wriggle out of that here.

71 posted on 07/10/2009 7:14:02 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens

Back to your original post... what essential liberty did we lose under Bush?

Seems to me I’ve got all of the same liberty I had before.


72 posted on 07/10/2009 7:18:05 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Two Ravens
Do you really believe that they intended to apply our Bill of Rights and Constitution to the world? How egotistical do you believe they were?! They designed our rights and freedoms for our citizens. Anyone who is a US citizen has these rights and it does not include anyone in Al Quaeda.

Tell me whose rights the Bush administration violated. ONE case. Give me one. You can't.

Foreigners and enemy combatants have no right to claim our freedoms and rights. They are trying to destroy them.

73 posted on 07/10/2009 7:22:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Do you really believe that they intended to apply our Bill of Rights and Constitution to the world? How egotistical do you believe they were?! They designed our rights and freedoms for our citizens. Anyone who is a US citizen has these rights and it does not include anyone in Al Quaeda.

All men means all men. Our Founders said that all men were endowed these rights by the Creator. It would be foolish to say that the Creator only gave those rights to Americans--and that's why they didn't say it.

They said the Creator gave them to all men

They said that it is self-evident that the Creator gave all men those rights; those inalienable rights.

They weren't speaking in parables; they said what they meant, and to wrangle what they clearly said is the liberal way, not the conservative way.

75 posted on 07/10/2009 7:31:24 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: Two Ravens
It would be foolish to say that the Creator only gave those rights to Americans--and that's why they didn't say it.

Again. Those rights are only guaranteed to US citizens. We have no influence on another country.

Those rights do not apply to those trying to destroy our country and it's citizens.

Now tell me, whose rights have been violated by the Bush administration. Cite a case.

76 posted on 07/10/2009 7:37:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Again. Those rights are only guaranteed to US citizens. We have no influence on another country.

We're not talking here about other countries violating the inalienable rights given by the Creator to all men. And if you'd read the posted article, you wouldn't be asking me to reveal information that is clearly still being kept hidden.

77 posted on 07/10/2009 7:44:07 PM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: DJ MacWoW
Now tell me, whose rights have been violated by the Bush administration. Cite a case.

He cannot because he is a just a lying liberal (I know it is a redundancy).

78 posted on 07/10/2009 7:46:13 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Two Ravens

There has never been any evidence presented that any wiretaps were done that violated the Constitution. Not one. Just because you believe some lunatic tinfoilers doesn’t mean any of us should.


79 posted on 07/10/2009 7:47:39 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Two Ravens

How do you know about hidden information?


80 posted on 07/10/2009 7:48:08 PM PDT by Griddlee
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