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Dakota Dino Reveals Skin Cells (first they find dino blood &vessels, now they find dino skin cells!)
CEH ^ | July 1, 2009

Posted on 07/06/2009 8:50:37 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

July 1, 2009 — “Absolutely amazing” and “absolutely gobsmacking” are exclamations made by scientists analyzing the fossilized skin of a hadrosaur known as Dakota. The researchers found cell structures and organic matter in the skin and layers that resemble the skin of birds and crocodiles.

The specimen was uncovered in 1999 on a North Dakota ranch and is still being analyzed. Photos on the BBC News show clear scales and cross sections of microscopic tendon structures. The article said, “Tests have shown that the fossil still holds cell-like structures,” adding, “although the proteins that made up the hadrosaur’s skin had degraded, the amino acid building blocks that once made up the proteins were still present.”

How could soft tissue structures and details survive intact for 66 million years?...

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1 posted on 07/06/2009 8:50:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...
Also see the following section Dinosaur blood cells, blood vessels and proteins: have they been found, and how could they have survived the alleged millions of years?
2 posted on 07/06/2009 8:53:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
How could soft tissue structures and details survive intact for 66 million years?...

How, indeed...

3 posted on 07/06/2009 8:54:45 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan

The same way that they apparently survived for 6000 years.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 8:56:29 AM PDT by theknuckler_33
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 07/06/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: theknuckler_33

You mean Pure F—ing Magic?


6 posted on 07/06/2009 9:00:06 AM PDT by B-Chan
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To: GodGunsGuts
..buried rapidly in a low-oxygen environment that prevented decay.

You mean like an enormous cataclysmic flood?

8 posted on 07/06/2009 9:09:26 AM PDT by 1forall (America - my home, my land, my country.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Dino skin cells? What do they call them, pelosi?


9 posted on 07/06/2009 9:10:16 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Happy birthday Mr. President!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
“How could soft tissue structures and details survive intact for 66 million years?...”

If the assumption is that the specimen is 66 million years old that question won't be pursued too vigorously. After all there may not be an answer that is acceptable to Darwinism.

10 posted on 07/06/2009 9:14:30 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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11 posted on 07/06/2009 9:17:21 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: 1forall
..buried rapidly in a low-oxygen environment that prevented decay.

You mean like an enormous cataclysmic flood?

Water is not a low-oxygen environment.

More likely, this dinosaur was entombed in a landslide or something similar. This is an interesting find, but like the T-Rex soft-tissue (which wasn't really the soft-tissue itself, but the mineralized replacement), it's probably just a really unusual situation.

12 posted on 07/06/2009 9:23:22 AM PDT by Blackacre
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To: GodGunsGuts
Dakota Dino Reveals Skin Cells?

Step one....start with a false title to mislead the reader into thinking they found actual dinosaur cells.

Tests have shown that the fossil still holds cell-like structures

Now it's not "cells" as the title exclaims....it's "cell-LIKE structures".....hmmmm....cell-like structures made of "what"?

although the proteins that made up the hadrosaur’s skin had degraded, the amino acid building blocks that once made up the proteins were still present

NOW, it's not even "cell-like structures"....NOW it's "degraded proteins......as in "they found some amino acids".....now it's gone from the ludicrous title of "reveals skin cells".....to "reveals amino acids"..... as in....We're looking at the altered products of proteins from the skin of this animal, locked within the three dimensional mineralised skin

So we're really talking something more like fossilized skin, not "skin cells".....like fossilized bones are not "bone cells".

ALWAYS, under all circumstances, ignore RATIONAL explanations:

They believe that the dinosaur fell into a watery grave, with little oxygen present to speed along the decay process. Meanwhile, very fine sediments reacted with the soft tissues of the animal, forming a kind of cement.

As a result, the 66 million-year-old fossil still retains some of the organic matter of the original dinosaur, mixed in with the minerals.

.....and by "organic matter" they're not talking "flesh"....they're talking "amino acids".

13 posted on 07/06/2009 9:23:23 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

If they clone the DINO will they produce a RINO??? /snicker


14 posted on 07/06/2009 9:29:16 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger
It is only a simpleton’s view that this is about two rock-hard dates of 4.6 billion years and 6,000 years. No creationist is saying dinosaurs died out right after being created. But it’s certainly far more believable to assume some imperfect preservation from 4,000 - 5,000 years ago rather than 60 million years.

Let's set aside for a moment the pretense that Creationism is not about a backdoor approach to promote Christian theology. Where in the Bible do the authors speak of dinosaurs dying out 6,000 years ago?

15 posted on 07/06/2009 9:30:20 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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"But it’s certainly far more believable to assume some imperfect preservation from 4,000 - 5,000 years ago rather than 60 million years."

Even more believable that they were from less than 2000 years ago. There is a vast amount of cultural and artistic evidence that says that the dinos were recently alive. The logician and the scientist will accept that evidence, but the old-earthers and evolutionists will writhe in denial.

16 posted on 07/06/2009 9:49:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
"Where in the Bible do the authors speak of dinosaurs dying out 6,000 years ago?"

The Bible doesn't speak to any extinctions. - The evidence that is available strongly suggests that many species were still living into the present millenium.

17 posted on 07/06/2009 9:53:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

I try to look away from these threads, but I couldn’t resist replying to your post.

Do you *seriously* believe that dinosaurs walked the earth 2000 years ago? I mean, that’s not only within recorded history, but there were quite a few historians writing at the time. Don’t you think that if dinosaurs were around 2500 years ago that maybe Herodotus and Thucydides would have commented on them?

Your post is just plain silly.


18 posted on 07/06/2009 9:55:49 AM PDT by dinodino
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"Water is not a low-oxygen environment."

Steam and boiling water hold no gasses at all, and both were the dominant forms of water during the 'flood.'

19 posted on 07/06/2009 9:56:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: dinodino

Your post is what is silly.

The absurd assumption that Dinos died off is a recent error. No credible historian would have seen anything worth writing about at the time; it was just natural. Your thinking is convoluted and constipated.

Marco Polo wrote of the “dragons” he encountered, as did Alexander. Are you going to write them off?


20 posted on 07/06/2009 10:01:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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