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Feds could seize Calif. parks if closed by budget (threaten to seize 6 state parks if closed)
ap on Sac bee ^ | 7/1/09 | AP

Posted on 07/01/2009 12:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The California governor's office says federal officials are threatening to seize six state parks if they are closed to help balance the state's budget.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has proposed closing 220 state parks.

But the National Park Service warned in a letter to Schwarzenegger that six of those parks are on former federal land that could revert to the U.S. government if they are not kept open as parks.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; feds; parks; schwarzenegger; seize; stateparks
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Great views at all of them, I am sure .. but I have never set foot on Diablo or angel island or those particular beaches.. and I’ve been here awhile.. my loss I guess. oh well, we have a pool. :) but no hot tub :-(


41 posted on 07/01/2009 2:10:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The Federal Government owns nearly 650 million acres of land - almost 30 percent of the land area of the United States”

On another thread, I posted something about King Henry... but it was actually King William II who used about 1/3 of England for his own pleasure (hunting and he like) and strictly enforced a harsh "Forest Law" to make sure nobody interfered.

42 posted on 07/01/2009 2:16:54 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What about privatization?


43 posted on 07/01/2009 2:18:00 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: a fool in paradise

When they start dumping tens of billions into California, they WILL have Nationalized the states.


44 posted on 07/01/2009 2:28:37 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: a fool in paradise

Look at the dipshits smiling behind him who voted for him.

We have Tom Carvel for POTUS and Cookie Puss for his wife...great times we are living in.


45 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:44 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe the Federal government should take California back and reallocate it as 5 separate states (to conservative majorities)...
46 posted on 07/01/2009 2:37:43 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

Maybe the Federal government should take California back and reallocate it as 5 separate states (to conservative majorities)...

BINGO!

Good luck dividing it. Change like that, likely?

Not with ‘Big FED’ in charge. ;-)


47 posted on 07/01/2009 2:40:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Another creative idea.... let the Feds have LA and San Fran. Turn them into liberal sh*thole districts like DC and then turn the rest over to local citizens who have high enough IQs to elect conservative governments...
48 posted on 07/01/2009 2:40:52 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What was I thinking...


49 posted on 07/01/2009 2:41:51 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Carry_Okie
California went through a similar step in that it declared its independence from Mexico prior to annexation.

Well, the Bear Flag Republic was a pretty ad hoc deal that wasn't recognized by anyone. It only lasted 25 days, until Fremont showed up with a small group of US soldiers and claimed California for the USA, whereupon the Bear Flag Republic pretty much vanished without a trace. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ceded the land from Mexico to the US in early 1848 and California became a US territory for two years, until statehood in 1850.

Texas, on the other hand, was a real country with ambassadors and everything, and it lasted for ten years.

50 posted on 07/01/2009 2:46:52 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: icwhatudo
“Don’t worry, we will force tax payers in other states to pay for those parks so your illegals can keep enjoying them”.

“Don’t worry, we will force tax payers in other states to pay for those parks so your illegals can keep enjoying them using them as meth labs”.

51 posted on 07/01/2009 2:53:22 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Burn them so they don’t fall into enemy hands.


53 posted on 07/01/2009 2:54:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: CodeToad

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/291-federal-lands-in-the-us/

54 posted on 07/01/2009 2:58:30 PM PDT by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

wow...and thanks.


55 posted on 07/01/2009 2:59:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Texas should grow,..they could take back some of the New Mexico Territory....

I thought they had some of it at one time....

New Mexico History

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Mexican province

Napoleon Bonaparte of France sold the vast Louisiana Purchase, which extended into the northeastern corner of New Mexico, to the United States in 1803. As a part of New Spain, the remainder of the province of New Mexico passed to independent Mexico following the 1810-1821 Mexican War of Independence.

Small trapping parties from the United States had previously reached Santa Fe, but the Spanish rulers forbade them to trade. Trader William Becknell returned to the United States in November 1821 with news that independent Mexico welcomed trade through Santa Fe.

Becknell left Independence, Missouri, for Santa Fe early in 1822 with the first party of traders. Wagon caravans thereafter made the 40- to 60-day annual trek along the 780 mile (1,260 km) Santa Fe Trail, usually leaving in early summer and returning after a 4 to 5 week stay in New Mexico. The Trail divided into Mountain and Cimarron Divisions southwest of Dodge City, Kansas. The rugged Mountain Division passed over Raton Pass and rejoined the more direct Cimarron Division near Fort Union, New Mexico. The dry southern Cimmaron route offered poor short grass and little wildlife. The Santa Fe National Historic Trail follows the route of the old trail, with many sites marked or restored.

The Republic of Texas claimed the territory north and east of the Rio Grande when it seceded from Mexico in 1836. New Mexico authorities captured a group of Texans who embarked an expedition to assert their claim to the province in 1841.

American territory

Tierra O Muerte – Land or Death. Some New Mexicans express dissatisfaction over land grant issues which date back to the Mexican War.American General Stephen W. Kearny marched down the Santa Fe Trail and entered Santa Fe without opposition in 1846 during the Mexican-American War, and his forces occupied the city, making New Mexico, which included present-day Arizona, a captive United States territory. Kearny asserted that his occupation was only of the eastern part of New Mexico (Texas, annexed by the United States in 1845, claimed all land on its side of the Rio Grande). He also protected citizens under martial law by the Kearny Code, essentially Kearny's promise that religious and legal conditions would not be disrupted by the United States. Though the reality of occupation soon included western New Mexico, the Kearny Code became one of the bases of New Mexico's legal code during its territorial period, the longest in United States history.

While Kearny's entrance into New Mexico was relatively peaceful, the region did not remain that way. General Kearny continued on to California according to U.S. wartime strategy, guided by Kit Carson, but leaving an occupying force behind. After Kearny's departure, a rebellion broke out in the town and pueblo of Taos, where Taos Indians killed Governor Charles Bent and all but two Americans in the town on January 19, 1847. Retaliating quickly, a U.S. detachment under Colonel Sterling Price marched on Taos, attacked the town, and concentrated cannon fire upon the church, the center of the insurgency, resulting in the deaths of 150 insurgents and the capture of some 400 more. Six leaders were arraigned and, on February 9, hanged for their role in the Taos Revolt. A series of skirmishes between mountain-based rebels and U.S. forces continued well into 1847, with casualties totaling more than 300 rebels and thirty "Anglos," as Americans were often called.

56 posted on 07/01/2009 3:03:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: silverleaf
oh noze- next, a Park Czar

LOL! That's a good one...

Can anyone tell me what's the difference of the Feds running the park as opposed to the California officials?

57 posted on 07/01/2009 3:10:44 PM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: NormsRevenge

Shut down the parks so drug dealers can grow pot on them.

It will be easier to grow and buy/sell a blunt if no Park Rangers or Feds are hanging around.


58 posted on 07/01/2009 3:29:51 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Elect General Petraeus for President 2012)
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To: wac3rd

Lower taxes, deport illegals, end unions and cut 50% of the bureaucrats.

There, fixed the State.


Sounds good. Would you fix the others, also?


59 posted on 07/01/2009 3:52:13 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I am usually not that conspiratorial.

But I have wondered whether the intention is ultimately for California to default and the US government to follow the precedent of "Reconstruction".

I can see California defaulting and the Federal government using its guarantee of a "republican form of government" to declare that California committed suicide and rewrite it's Constitution (without Proposition 13).

I admit it is paranoid, but its not like states had not been declared to have "committed suicide" and "reconstructed" before.
60 posted on 07/01/2009 3:54:59 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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