Latest on the Obama Birth Certificate eBay Auction is Scratched

eBay messages | 6/30 | self

[woofie]

This is the latest messaging I have had with the seller on eBay

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Dear colmado_naranja,

I see the auction has been pulled (again), also I got a bunch of warnings that you might be trying to get my account info etc.

I sure hope you are legit or at least not trying to cause harm

If you can tell me anything about what is going on I'd appreciate it

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Dear ____

Hi. Don't worry, I'm not a scammer. You can check with other eBayers that have made posts all over the internet in support of me and that eBay is now to the point that they will say anything to cancel my auctions.

There will be no more auctions for Obama?s b.c., but this may interest you. Ebay item # 160345795373. ?Autographed photo of Smith and Andylenny abroad.?

Again you?ll have to search by listing number for the first several hours until the title becomes searchable.

I'm turning the b.c. over to WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah. Thanks for your support. You are appreciated.

- colmado_naranja

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I had recieved this from eBay earlier:

Hello ______________

Our records show that you recently received an email from colmado_naranja through the Ask Seller a Question or Contact eBay Member features. This email may be fraudulent and an attempt to do one of the following:

- Obtain your eBay password - Gain access to your eBay account - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent

This kind of email is often called a "phish" or "phishing attempt," and the people who send them are known as "phishers." Phishers use these methods to try to get your personal information, such as user names, passwords and credit card details. Because the emails may sometimes come through the eBay system, the phisher may seem to be trustworthy and have a good reason to contact you.

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[Star Traveler]

You said — It’s been proven time and time again about some of the elected officials being guilty. They need to be prosecuted; not favored.

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Agreed..., someone that comes to mind just recently is Sanford. He probably should be prosecuted for abandoning his post as governor and not giving someone else authority to act in his absence, being out of the country for five days...

Cleaning house, at home, is always a good thing. In any case, I think that I can safely say that I won’t be voting for Sanford for any Presidential election.

But, I would vote for Palin... :-)

[freekitty]

I am not talking Sanford. I am talking about the real crooks and thugs.

[Star Traveler]

You said — I am not talking Sanford. I am talking about the real crooks and thugs.

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I understand that you might not have been thinking of Sanford, but I was using him as the most recent example of such...

I think he should be kicked out of office (along with all those other crooks, too). But, I don’t have a say in that, since I’m not in that state. However, I will have a say in it, if he ever attempts to run for President... :-)

[Star Traveler]

You said to another FReeper — Oh, thank you so much for your wisdom. Now, Shut Up jerkoff

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Actually, we’ll soon be finding out if it’s a hoax or not, since the eBay seller said he is giving it to WorldNetDaily.

WorldNetDaily will confirm it one way or another — and we’ll know from them whether this is a hoax or not...

[McGruff]

Our records show that you recently received an email from colmado_naranja...This email may be fraudulent and an attempt to...Obtain your eBay password - Gain access to your eBay account - Use your eBay account for fraudulent activity - Set up an outside-of-eBay transaction which may be fraudulent...Because the emails may sometimes come through the eBay system, the phisher may seem to be trustworthy and have a good reason to contact you. ***Important - Protect Your Personal Information*** - Don't reply to the sender either through the eBay system or your personal email account.

How do we know he didn't steal your Free Republic account? :^)

[justiceseeker93]

Theodore Roosevelt (the good President Roosevelt) was a Republican.

Yes, I noticed that error as well. As for his being the "good" President Roosevelt, yes, but only by comparison to the other. He did contribute in his own way to the growth of Big Government.

[freekitty]

Sanford is not a crook in the sense the others are. Yes; he did wrong and should be drummed out of office; but I don’t believe he is a crook. And he is not the latest example.

[freekitty]

I agree, justiceseeker.

[Star Traveler]

Well, I actually think it’s a crime in terms of dereliction of duty, in leaving the state without anyone able to do anything, if something came up, in that period of time. I think it was five days.

AND..., you might not know it, but according to what I read, he couldn’t get back any sooner than five days, because that was the very next flight he was able to take to get back. There weren’t any flights in between, if an emergency had come up.

That’s criminal for the people of that state to have been without any governor for five days...

But, of course, there *are* other criminal things, too — that other politicians do. Some are of a higher order of criminality, and others are of a lower order, according to the opinions of different people.

It’s just that abandoning the people of that state to having *no governor* for five days and being unable to return in the meantime seems pretty darned criminal...

[freebird5850]

bump for later

[freekitty]

They have a Lt Governor to take over if need be.

[Star Traveler]

You said — They have a Lt Governor to take over if need be.

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Now, here’s the problem. From what I understand, he has to be specifically authorized to do so. It has to be a sort of “transfer of power” and not one that is like — “Oh, since we can’t find the governor, you get to do it now...”

It doesn’t work that way. And Sanford refused to authorize the change in power while he was gone. Thus, he left the state “governor-less” during those five days.

If an emergency had happened, they would have been powerless to do anything about it. That’s “criminal” for state governance...

[freekitty]

Do you have proof he refused? I think they would find a legal way.

Besides Sanford is the least of our worries. How do you feel about all the thievery going on with Obama and the Congress?

[Star Traveler]

I was going by what I read, as we all do on Free Republic. I’m not a citizen of that state, so it’s really up to them to decide the matter. I bring it up, since you talk about criminal things and this was an instance of something just happening.

But, that does not take away from any others and their criminal matters, either. You see, I don’t think you should just concentrate on one group and ignore the other. I figure you should go after all criminals, no matter where they are. And that would be on both sides of the aisle...

[freekitty]

I understand what you are saying; but I think you are concentrating more on personal acts and it should be dealt with; rather than criminal acts of theft.

Take a look at what Bill Clinton did personally while he was Governor of Arkansas. He actually raped a woman. That is criminal and he is walking around scott free.

[Star Traveler]

You said — Take a look at what Bill Clinton did personally while he was Governor of Arkansas. He actually raped a woman. That is criminal and he is walking around scott free.

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Absolutely, and I agree there 100%. I was saying during that time that it was out on the news, prominently, that he should be convicted for that. You’re talking about Broaddrick. I remember that one very clearly.

Juanita Broaddrick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick

[ckilmer]

I sure hope this guy is moving faster than he is telegraphing his moves.
Funny , his main criticism of other attempts was that they telegraphed their moves. Then he does the same thing...Hoax I say
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its natural as breathing for people not to learn from other’s mistakes. we don’t have enough info to conclude anything.

[justiceseeker93]

...this could be a layered mindgame (they are Chicago mobsters after all).

Yes, it could be a "layered mindgame." But if it is, it's too sophisticated for a bunch of mobsters. More like the stuff you'd associate with international intelligence operatives.

[justiceseeker93]

Unless the handoff to Joseph Farah was made previous to the announcement.

That could be, given that WND reported that they had had contacts with the eBayer as early as several days ago.

[SaraJohnson]

I think it’s a scam. Farah won’t fall for it; he’ll make as sure as possible that it is real before he uses it.

This would be a great way to discredit Obama’s political enemies. The seller referred to vets who would protect him from Obama’s thugs “with guns.” That goes thud...too much like a left winger’s homeland security stereotypes.

If they are obamaistas, they are hoping someone bites so they can go to a left wing blog and “tell the truth” about how it’s fake. hahahaha those stupid “right wingers with guns.”

E-bay may know it is fake and really be trying to protect anyone from falling for the scam rather than the assumption by some that they are trying to protect Obama.

Fat chance it is real at this point.