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CanadaCare sends baby to US for treatment (Where can they go after ObamaCare?)
Hotair ^ | 6/27/2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/28/2009 6:09:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

My friend Michael Stickings links to a story of bureaucratic outrages involving an acutely ill premature baby, but only focuses on one particular outrage while excusing the other. Because Canada does not have the capacity to deal with the demand for neo-natal intensive care for premature births, the single-payer system sent the critically ill child to the United States for treatment. Unfortunately, the parents do not have passports which are now required for crossing the border, and the US refuses to allow them into the country without them:

A critically-ill premature-born baby from Hamilton is all alone in a Buffalo, N.Y., hospital after she was turned away for treatment at local facility and transferred across the border without her parents, who don’t have passports.

Ava Stinson was born Thursday at St. Joseph’s Hospital, 14 weeks premature.

A provincewide search for an open neonatal intensive care unit bed came up empty, leaving no choice but to send the two pound, four ounce baby to Buffalo.

Her parents Natalie Paquette and Richard Stinson couldn’t follow their child because as of June 1, a passport is required to cross the border into the United States.

They’re having to approve medical procedures over the phone and are terrified something will happen to their baby before they get there.

Stinson has a criminal record, which makes matters worse for entry to the US. Obviously, though, this is not a planned diversion but a real medical crisis. Surely the US and Canada can agree to temporary measures that will allow the parents to cross the border, even if under embassy supervision and security, to join their child. As Michael notes, keeping them away from their child at this critical juncture is needlessly cruel.

But let’s not place the onus on the US for the need to separate the parents in the first place. Michael attempts to dismiss the underlying problem:

I won’t get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here. Suffice it to say that there obviously need to be more neo-natal intensive care unit beds up here. Thankfully — and this doesn’t mean that the American system is better (after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here, thanks to our public system, even if it’s not perfect) — there was an opening south of the border.

Well, it’s impossible to look at this situation without seeing the relative merits of the American and Canadian systems. First, the child would have gotten care in the US, too, regardless of insurance status. People get emergency care regardless in this country. There is a difference between health insurance and access to care that some people elide for purposes of political argument. No one gets turned away from emergency care for lack of ability to pay.

But why wasn’t there a NICU bed for the child in the entire nation of Canada? The government of Canada won’t pay for more. They don’t exist to expand supply to meet demand; their single-payer system exists to ration care as a cost-saving mechanism. In a free-market system, supply expands to meet demand, which is why Canada could subcontract out to a US hospital for capacity. Michael writes that paragraph as if it was mere luck that an NICU bed happened to be open in the US, but that’s a function of the system, and not luck. These parents are separated from their child at the moment through the fault of Canada’s government and not the US.

It’s a good lesson for both Americans and Canadians as the administration and Congress attempt to push a systemic overhaul of the US health-care system that will cost trillions and push us towards the same kind of single-payer system that Canada has. When we handle our health-care system like Canada, where will Canadians send the next NICU case they can’t handle? And where will America send ours?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; healthcare; obama; obamacare; socializedmedicine
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s gonna be survival of the fittest.


21 posted on 06/28/2009 7:31:22 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve said this for years. When America adopts Canada’s health care system, where will Canadians go to find quality health care?

I hope it’s in a seceded Texas.

Really, this whole economy is teed up like a hanging curveball for whichever state wants to break from the union and be the lone source of capitalism in the hemisphere.


22 posted on 06/28/2009 7:39:49 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
In recent years, major clinics in the US have handled thousands of sick Canadians. Five to ten thousand each annually at Mayo in Minneapolis, Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland, Johns Hopkins in Baltimore; not to mention countless visits across the border at smaller facilities.

There is no healthcare crisis in the US that the free market can't handle. It's all BS, people.

23 posted on 06/28/2009 8:15:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: speekinout
America is as bad as Canada in this story.

Glad to see you really focussed on the issue at hand and didn't get distracted by incidental Bullsh*t.

24 posted on 06/28/2009 8:18:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

Under Obama Care they will come to the same Place, Here, the Only difference will be that YOU will pay for their care


25 posted on 06/29/2009 3:29:23 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: SeekAndFind
Thankfully — and this doesn’t mean that the American system is better (after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here, thanks to our public system, even if it’s not perfect) — there was an opening south of the border.

If they were "guaranteed care up here" what are they doing in Buffalo? It seems like the "guarantee" of Canadian medical care was pretty worthless. Canada was only able to fulfill their "guarantee" because of the mean old USA.

26 posted on 06/29/2009 4:33:58 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: GraceCoolidge

In British Columbia, the “guarentee” includes contracts between hospitals in Seattle and the govt of BC for so many heart procedures, so many high risk births, so many neurological emergencies, etc per year.

Even with these contracts, British Columbians disparage the American system because it is ‘profit-based.’

They just do not get it that medical personnel are not slaves to the government, and will not always be present when needed in Canada.


27 posted on 06/29/2009 5:00:03 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: maica
Yes, I did know that the Canadian system contracts with the US for some care. The part of the sentence that struck me was that this couple supposedly was guaranteed care "up here." I don't know how many parents would sign on for a "guarantee" that means your critically ill newborn is going to be shipped off to another country for care, especially when they can't follow. If Obama went around touting his plan by saying, "If we run out of beds here, we are going to send you to hospital in another country," I don't think many Americans would be very enthusiastic.

I first read about this story in a Mark Steyn post on the NRO blog. He ended by asking where the Canadians will send their patients when the US system fills up-- he asked, Costa Rica? Then he concluded by saying "we now return to your 24/7 Michael Jackson coverage."

28 posted on 06/29/2009 7:08:01 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Vaquero

He’s got all kinds of creepy people on board who have infiltrated the institutions of our society including this sick woman: Simone Campbell a nun!

http://www.networklobby.org/about/Simone_bio1-07.htm


29 posted on 06/29/2009 8:06:55 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: fanfan

Ping.


30 posted on 06/29/2009 8:12:32 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: GraceCoolidge

I worked in BC for 20 years and have been doing my best to tell people what ‘single payer’ means when it is the only game in town.

I wish for every time a talk show host mentions the name “Michael Jackson” or “Mark Sanford” or “titillation of the day” they would mention that there is not enough “care” to treat everybody in Canada, so Canadians have to come here.

I was a NICU nurse, so I am particularly sensitive to the rationing of beds in that area, which causes families to be separated just when family support is the most important thing that the new parents need, and bonding with the baby is the most important, non-technical thing that the baby needs.

It is just revolting that the number of NICU beds are limited!!!!

Americans assume that today’s quality of care will continue with Obamacare and it will be ‘free.’


31 posted on 06/29/2009 8:25:36 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Don’t fool yourself, our healthcare is absolute crap.


32 posted on 06/29/2009 9:40:12 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: SeekAndFind

But I’ve had people on FR swear that the number of Canadians coming to America is overstated and that the few celebrities who’ve come out to admit that they came here for quicker services “weren’t eligible anymore for Canadian coverage” (paraphrase).


33 posted on 06/29/2009 10:29:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“(after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here, thanks to our public system, even if it’s not perfect)”

Excuse me, what is “guaranteed care” if you can’t get care??


34 posted on 06/29/2009 1:26:15 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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