Posted on 06/24/2009 5:06:37 AM PDT by conservativegramma
Two recent public opinion surveys released in Israel and the United States demonstrate that the campaign by President Obama and members of his diplomatic team to criticize and isolate Israel over the issue of settlements in the West Bank is having an impact in both countries.
In Israel, a survey sponsored by the Jerusalem Post revealed a stunning result: just 6% of Israeli Jews now regard the U.S. president as pro-Israel. Another 86% regard Obama as either pro-Palestinian (50%) or neutral between the two parties (36%). No American president has ever been viewed in Israel this way, and it has taken but five months for the Israelis to come to understand the new reality in U.S.-Israeli relations — that the special relationship and friendship between the two countries has ended, at least at the level of the U.S. president and his administration.....
During the campaign, there was concern among some liberal Jews about Obama’s history and long friendship with people hostile to Israel such as Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Professor Rashid Khalidi, Ali Abunimah, and Samantha Power. To counter this, the campaign rolled out a chorus line of Chicago Jews who could swear for Obama’s bona fides as to his love for both Israel and the Jews. For most liberal Jews, Israel is an issue — but not the issue. Abortion rights, separation of church and state, stem cell research, universal health care, saving the planet — these issues are what ignite real political passion for many liberal Jews, not support for Israel.....
Israeli Jews have caught on that the emperor is not wearing any clothes. Will American Jews wake up as well?
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“shut up, get in line, it’s just a shower””
Didn’t happen like that. That’s Hollywood.
I am thinking the misconceptions that repeat over-and-over on these threads about:
1. Jews are lemmings and suididal
2. Jews are at fault for liberalism
3. Jews have bad genes
Etc.
Have a lot to do with why it takes a pretty thick skin to be a Republican Jew.
They also fought back at Sobibor and Treblinka.
The FEMA prison camps are already built. Just gooooogle 'box cars + shackles' if you do not believe me. And add '+ guillotines' for a real eye opener. Or check my freeper page to view mind jolting videos. Have a nice day . . .
And Auschwitz and in most of the occupied countries. Also in the Motherland till the resistance was eradicated in late 1941 early 1942. Including attacks on Nazi infrastructure, and on a couple occasions attacks on transport trains. Of course here we’d comdemn the resistance because most of the groups were leftist.
I call them slanders, but I might be too harsh, they may be misconceptions. But it has nothing to do with the GOP, the conversation wouldn't be tolerated there, it's more a function of the internet where people express opinions I suspect they wouldn't express in the real world.
In the case of Sobibor, it was imprisoned Red Army troops that helped with the planning.
too true...
Still one fine puppy ya got.
They’re usually very fast, can this one jump?
Are you saying that American Jews are going to be attacked? By who?
Because otherwise you are missing the point. American Jews do not feel threatened. Israeli Jews do.
People posting about similarities to the Holocaust and ‘Jews walking to the showers’ should be aware that your comments border on blaming the victim and are very hurtful to Jewish posters. And they are historically innacurate. The Holocaust happened prior to the establishment of the State of Israel. Many, many Jews tried to get out , but had nowhere to go.
What is missing from the American Jewish community is a sense of ‘I am my brothers’ keeper’.
arbooz,
Photos of the baby pups are adorable. Good job.
You’d think folks would vote their best interests not just be stupid.
Ya ok MrB?
And I believe caused the camp to be shut down. It’s a shame the history isn’t told more. It’s a shame they don’t make movies about heroics any more too. Why hasn’t the media covered heroism in Iraq and Afghanistan? I might even go to a theatre once in awhile.
There was a good movie about Sobibor "Escape from Sobibor", I believe it is available in its' entirety on YouTube.
Killing Center Revolts: Even in the death camps, in the shadow of the gas chambers and crematoria, Jews resisted against their oppressors. Three bold and daring uprisings occurred in the killing centers at Treblinka, Sobibor, and Auschwitz-Birkenau. As was the case with ghetto rebellions, those organized killing center revolts arose out of a sense of desperation and hopelessness, when it became clear that all Jews in these extermination camps were to be killed.
Almost all Jews -- children, the elderly, and physically fit teenagers and adults -- deported to the Treblinka and Sobibor extermination camps were gassed upon arrival. Few barracks existed for resident inmates. Camp guards temporarily spared small numbers of prisoners for use in special units called the Sonderkommando, which operated the crematoria and other camp facilities. But those Sonderkommando members realized that it was only a matter of time before they, too, would be gassed.
Treblinka: At Treblinka, an underground organization plotted an armed rebellion and mass escape. Learning about the Warsaw ghetto revolt from the last transports of Jews brought to Treblinka from Warsaw, the organizers decided the moment for revolt had arrived. On August 2, 1943, the underground fighters put their plan into action: to steal arms from the warehouse; eliminate the German and Ukrainian guards on duty; set the camp on fire; destroy the extermination area; and, then help the remaining prisoners escape to the forest. Many were killed during the rebellion, including all the resistance leaders, as the flames and reports of the revolt brought German reinforcements from all directions. But as many as 200 prisoners escaped to the neighboring forest, and perhaps twenty of those men survived German efforts to recapture them.
A few months after the revolt, Germans closed the camp, leveled it, and planted pine trees to hide all traces of the mass murders. At least 750,000 Jews perished at the camp between July 1942 and November 1943.
Sobibor: At Sobibor, Leon Feldhendler, the son of a rabbi from the nearby town of Zolkiewka, formed an underground organization in July 1943. By then transports to the death camp were slowing down and veteran Jewish prisoners sensed the end was quickly approaching. In September 1943, a new deportation of Soviet Jewish prisoners from Minsk brought a trained Soviet army officer, Lieutenant Alexandr "Sasha" Aronovich Pechersky to Sobibor. The Jewish underground recruited Pechersky and placed him in command.
Feldhendler devised a daring plan. Resisters would lure SS officers into storehouses on the pretext that they were to receive new coats and boots. Once inside, prisoners would attack them with axes and knives. The prisoners would then seize Nazi weapons and ammunition and set the camp ablaze during roll call. The insurgents would then break open the gate, and all prisoners would have a chance to run across the German mine fields toward the forest.
The revolt occurred in the late afternoon of October 14, 1943. Insurgents killed eleven of the Nazis in the camp, including the camp commander, and several Ukrainian guards. By dusk, about 300 prisoners had escaped. Nearly 200 of them managed to avoid recapture. Only a small number, however, survived to the war's end. Rumors that the escapees carried gold and silver made them easy prey for the local population, and few hiding in the forest survived the harsh Polish winter. Pechersky joined a partisan unit in the forest and survived the war; he later wrote a memoir about the revolt.
After the uprising, the Germans destroyed all traces of Sobibor. By the end of 1943, workers had plowed the death camp under and planted crops to cover the place where, between March 1942 and October 1943, the Nazis had murdered more than 250,000 Jews.
Auschwitz-Birkenau: At Auschwitz-Birkenau, an elaborate underground network of Jewish and non-Jewish prisoners planned a revolt. By summer 1944, Soviet forces were advancing swiftly from the east, and the Allies from the west. Transports had slowed to Auschwitz-Birkenau, where the Nazis had murdered more than one million Jews and tens of thousands of others.
Most of the non-Jewish underground backed out of the planned revolt after the failure of the Warsaw uprising by the Polish resistance in August 1944 and after the Polish underground outside of Auschwitz became aware that the Germans had learned about the plan. Underground leaders issued orders to give up the revolt.
But members of the Jewish Sonderkommando, sensing that the end was near and their usefulness to the Germans over, went ahead with the plan with help from some Soviet prisoners of war. On October 7, 1944, in a daring act of desperation, a group of prisoners blew up one of Birkenau's four crematoria using dynamite the underground had smuggled from a nearby munitions factory to the Sonderkommando. Six hundred prisoners escaped after the explosion, but all were either captured or killed as they fled.
On January 6, 1945, less than three weeks before the Soviet liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau, four young women accused of supplying the dynamite -- Roza Robota, Ella Gaertner, Esther Wajcblum, and Regina Safirsztain -- were hanged in the presence of the remaining inmates. As the trap door opened, Robota shouted defiantly, "Be strong; have courage!" Before her execution, guards had tortured her brutally, but she had refused to divulge the names of any members of the resistance.
Spontaneous Resistance by Gypsies at Auschwitz-Birkenau: In Auschwitz-Birkenau, camp officials set aside specific barracks in early 1943 to house Sinti and Roma family groups deported from Germany and other countries occupied by Germany. By the end of 1943, the Nazis had interned 18,736 Sinti and Roma in the Gypsy camp, and thousands of those men, women and children died in the gas chambers. Others, more fit adult men and women chosen for forced labor, were deported from Auschwitz to other camps.
On May 15, 1944, prisoners in the Birkenau Gypsy family camp learned that the camp administration intended to gas the 6,000 remaining Gypsy prisoners the next day. When SS guards armed with machine guns surrounded the camp and attempted to begin the transport to the gas chambers, they met armed resistance. After stealing scraps of sheet metal, prisoners had sharpened the metal into crudely fashioned knives. With those improvised weapons, and with iron pipes, clubs, and stones, the Gypsies defended themselves. Guards shot some resisters. The final liquidation of the camp occurred in early August when guards moved 2,897 men, women, and children to the gas chambers in the dead of night.
I’ve not seen it, but may look around for a download.
“You’d think folks would vote their best interests not just be stupid.”
Alas, the security of Israeli Jews has little effect (in the minds of a liberal JINO) on the best interest of liberal JINOs.
Liberal JINOS are comfortable in NYC, et al, and see no reason to have a nation of their own.
I see plenty of reasons, both practical and theological.
the majority have made their bones on this generations ago
their hatred (or fear) of what they percieve as Christian based traditional conservatism which doesn’t jive well with Reform Humanist Judaism trumps just about anything else politically or culturally, even the well being of kinfolks in Israel.
if they were not so influential for their numbers we would notice this but leftist Jews are damned out front and busy.....nearly every avenue of the culture war has some secular Jew out front leading the charge against traditional thought....think how effective they could be where their heads in the right place
oh well, I won’t live to see this change...the only time I’ve seen leftist Jews wake up quickly is over Israel on occasion but that’s not for America is it?...per se
they’ve never had it so good as here, I will never understand why they despise so much what made us great
i always say this....it’s like providential, this continuous collision course...wish it weren’t so
wish they were all Levins
“What is missing from the American Jewish community is a sense of ‘I am my brothers’ keeper’.”
That was my point. LIberal Jews today aren’t their brothers keeper.
“What is missing from the American Jewish community is a sense of ‘I am my brothers’ keeper’”
I think that may be true. I am not Mr. Religious, being somewhere between Reform and Conservative growing up in Israel, but I now attend (and will join) a Chabad (Orthodox) Shul here in the USA because we have a community. They walk, eat, work, shop together. They take care of each other.
(They also pack heat, which I appreciate.)
It’s not Free Republic Jew’s fault. They should be commended.
It’s easy for an old southern redneck like me to appreciate tradtional values.
It’s in my DNA, the few Jews we have here probably don’t have the warmest seders with the family if you know what I mean.
but it is frustrating...it permeates so much of what we see visually in the culture...this undertone which has gotten so much worse in politics, the mediaa and film since I was a boy
the old Jews loved America and it showed, they made great product and art which celebrated that point
not sure where the train went off the tracks...around Strangelove in movies I’d guess
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