Posted on 06/21/2009 7:28:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
The Birth Certificate Question
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:44:05 PM · 99 of 113
We have no proof of where Obama was born. Anyone who claims that he was born in Hawaii is suffering from COLB Derangement Syndrome. Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii, never confirmed that he has a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate or any other US birth certificate on file, or even if they have anything tangible beyond a computer record.
Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obama’s COLB to anyone in June 2007.
Einstein could have called himself, "Humpty Dumpty," and hid his face, but that would not change the fact that he discovered E=mc². Likewise, Obama’s 2007 COLB would be just as nonexistent as if I had never discovered that it was nonexistent. But, it is a good thing that I did.
It's positively amazing the amount of effort that people have expended in defense of this piece of crap COLB image that the Poseur-in-Chief now admits to posting online. There is only one reason why, after more than a year, that only one scan image of one side only has ever been made from what is alleged to be Obama’s 2007 COLB: it doesn't exist. Obama’s 2007 COLB is a forged fake, fabricated in Photoshop, and nothing that anyone says or does can change that fact.
There is absolutely no reason, whatsoever, that the Obama Campaign would not make another, more detailed scan, including one of the reverse side of the COLB, and send that out to quiet critics. No reason, EXCEPT that the document does not exist in the real world. It only exists in the unreal, virtual world of Photoshopped fakes.
BTW, a digital photo is not the same thing as a scan image, and it most certainly cannot be used to validate a scan image. Certainly not when the document object is photographed at a steep angles from the capture device (which were intentional).
Remember that Factcheck.org did not take a digital photo of the reverse side (all that Factcheck photographed was only 1/4 of the entire back page, and only 2/3 of the Seal). Why was so little of the back page shown? Because what was photographed belonged to a different COLB!! Check it out for yourself: the Seal on the reverse side does not match the one on the front side. It is one of several, new discoveries I've made after revisitng the Factcheck photographs.
A year later after the bogus scan image was posted, THAT is exactly what people are still talking about. They are referring back to the original forged image on Fight the Smears and Factcheck. They are quoting Factcheck -- the co-conspirator in this birth certficate scam -- as having "verified" the bogus "scan image."
Recall that Factcheck claimed they photographed the same object that the Obama Campaign scanned two months earlier.
They took these photos SOLELY IN DEFENSE of the scan image that they alleged to have "validated," and to fend off the widespread criticism of the COLB as a forged image. However, they failed to "debunk" the critics. This was all part of an elaborate ruse to create the illusion that Obama had released his genuine, certified original birth certificate to the public.
What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists, but of those, here is a segment who also discount it as being proof of where Obama was actually born. COLBs are incredibly easy to get with little documentation required. And, yes, it is a well-documented fact that Hawaii was giving COLBs to foreign-born children.
But the bottom line is that the original "scan image" is what people are still talking about today, and it is an indisputable fact that Obama, or anyone else, does not have a genuine 2007 COLB document. What is posted online is as bogus as a four-dollar bill.
Obama ascended to the position of President by fraudulent means, including document fraud, Internet fraud, voter fraud, and campaign funding fraud, to name a few. The only question at hand now is whether he will be removed by invalidating his election, or by the articles of impeachment. If I were a Democratic Congressman, and I was going to be implicated in this fraud, I'd be calling for impeachment in a New York minute.
FReeper Ron Polarik, Ph D State: Colorado
My daughter was born in 1961 & has orginal birth certificate in black & white with all info from Miama beach, FL hospital.
This certificate is not real but a certificate that you can have for birth or marriage but proves nothing.
I dad to show my passport eleven times before getting on a plane for London. My granddaughter one year old had to have a pass port before traveling to London.
The government will not accept a copy like Obama’s green certificate but you need the orginial that is completely filled out when applying for a US passport.
Did he ever travel abroad before be4coming a candiate?
If a person has nothing to hide then why be afraid to show it?
Makes a person think something is not kosher...
He went to Pockystain back in the 80's, when it was to do so.
Yes, Barry traveled to Pakistan, while in college, at a time when Americans were not, generally, allowed in Pakistan.
I’ve wondered if it’s something like that - his father identified - instead of the place of birth. I thought perhaps his race was identified as Arabic, or whatever the correct term is, that would show he’s not really African American at all. I think it’s something that would alienate a large number of voters. I’m not sure the citizenship issue would do that. He might just get a pass on that, whatever his birth place turns out to be.
Whatever it is, the obama team is truly worried about it.
The passport files of McCain, Clinton, Obama were all breached by three contract workers between January and mid-March of 2008. State Department officials later discovered that supervisors in the Office of Passport Services knew of incidents involving all three of the major candidates.
Source: LA Times article dated March 22, 2008
The result of this breach of security with national repercussions??
[crickets]
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IMHO, the passport and school records would provide a more viable determination of O's eligibility.
They contain the information that O himself claimed to be true after he had reached the age of majority.
That was my first clue too, Negro not African.
Course, this could be an Obamabot definition, hiding the real meaning: "psychopath."
No I don't think we can count on another foreign entity to come to our rescue. If the U.S. public cannot unearth the truth about Obama we are a doomed country!
It means that the person was born!
That is not the statement referred to in Polarik’s post. It is a statement that was made in October 2008. However, the question is “when did Hawaii say they did not release a BC of Barrack in June of 2007”
The reason I am pointing it out is that if it is true, it is proof positive that Obama's COLB that has been shown in all it's various formats is a complete and utter forgery.
I too want some sort of confirmation.
When your job is to deliver babies day in and day out, who is going to remember 40 years later having delivered the mixed race baby of a no name mother?
Furthermore, the doctor would be at least in his 70's. It's also reasonable to assume the nurses would now be in their 70's or beyond.
Prima facie evidence just means evidence on its face. Basically, the document is to be considered evidence UNLESS someone has evidence to counter it.
The problem is that the evidence presented is NOT evidence that O is a natural born citizen according to Constitutional intent. His mother had not reached the required age. More importantly, his father was an alien. He could have been born on the steps of the White House and he STILL wouldn't be a natural born citizen.
Secretary of State Bayard ruled under Section 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes in 1885 that although Richard Greisser was born in the United States, his father at the time of his birth was a subject of Germany, and thus, Richard Greisser could not be a citizen of the United States. Furthermore, it was held his father was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Defining Natural-Born Citizen
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IMHO, BO's COB is meaningless BS.
Check his school loan records and his passport.
“During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. “They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,” one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. “But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.” At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign. “This individual’s actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at The Analysis Corp. and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards,” Brennan’s company said in a statement sent to reporters after the passport breach was made public. The passport files include “personally identifiable information such as the applicant’s name, gender, social security number, date and place of birth, and passport number,” according to the inspector general report. The files may contain additional information including “original copies of the associated documents,” the report added. Such documents include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors.”
And this:
The Washington Times
April 19, 2008
Key Witness In Passport Fraud Case Fatally Shot
A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.
Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department’s Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car.
Emergency medics pronounced him dead at the scene.
I guarantee you the one in your possession is not a copy of the original but a regenerated BC.
The color does matter as does the handwriting, hand written notes and signatures.
The only thing that Medved can call me is curious. I am curious why a real document has not been produced to put an end to my curiosity.
despite the fact it made me shudder in disgust at the actions of our government.
NOBODY gets the original, the original is held by the State.
Yes, I was talking about my COLB.
However, it also has the name of my parents, the attending physician, and my Parents names on it.
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