New from Polarick: The Birth Certificate Question

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[cycle of discernment]

The Birth Certificate Question

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:44:05 PM · 99 of 113

We have no proof of where Obama was born. Anyone who claims that he was born in Hawaii is suffering from COLB Derangement Syndrome. Hawaii never confirmed that he was born in Hawaii, never confirmed that he has a Hawaiian long-form birth certificate or any other US birth certificate on file, or even if they have anything tangible beyond a computer record.

Most of all, Hawaii confirmed that they never released a copy of Obama’s COLB to anyone in June 2007.

Einstein could have called himself, "Humpty Dumpty," and hid his face, but that would not change the fact that he discovered E=mc². Likewise, Obama’s 2007 COLB would be just as nonexistent as if I had never discovered that it was nonexistent. But, it is a good thing that I did.

It's positively amazing the amount of effort that people have expended in defense of this piece of crap COLB image that the Poseur-in-Chief now admits to posting online. There is only one reason why, after more than a year, that only one scan image of one side only has ever been made from what is alleged to be Obama’s 2007 COLB: it doesn't exist. Obama’s 2007 COLB is a forged fake, fabricated in Photoshop, and nothing that anyone says or does can change that fact.

There is absolutely no reason, whatsoever, that the Obama Campaign would not make another, more detailed scan, including one of the reverse side of the COLB, and send that out to quiet critics. No reason, EXCEPT that the document does not exist in the real world. It only exists in the unreal, virtual world of Photoshopped fakes.

BTW, a digital photo is not the same thing as a scan image, and it most certainly cannot be used to validate a scan image. Certainly not when the document object is photographed at a steep angles from the capture device (which were intentional).

Remember that Factcheck.org did not take a digital photo of the reverse side (all that Factcheck photographed was only 1/4 of the entire back page, and only 2/3 of the Seal). Why was so little of the back page shown? Because what was photographed belonged to a different COLB!! Check it out for yourself: the Seal on the reverse side does not match the one on the front side. It is one of several, new discoveries I've made after revisitng the Factcheck photographs.

A year later after the bogus scan image was posted, THAT is exactly what people are still talking about. They are referring back to the original forged image on Fight the Smears and Factcheck. They are quoting Factcheck -- the co-conspirator in this birth certficate scam -- as having "verified" the bogus "scan image."

Recall that Factcheck claimed they photographed the same object that the Obama Campaign scanned two months earlier.

They took these photos SOLELY IN DEFENSE of the scan image that they alleged to have "validated," and to fend off the widespread criticism of the COLB as a forged image. However, they failed to "debunk" the critics. This was all part of an elaborate ruse to create the illusion that Obama had released his genuine, certified original birth certificate to the public.

What is hard to believe are the people in high places who actually believe that this document exists, but of those, here is a segment who also discount it as being proof of where Obama was actually born. COLBs are incredibly easy to get with little documentation required. And, yes, it is a well-documented fact that Hawaii was giving COLBs to foreign-born children.

But the bottom line is that the original "scan image" is what people are still talking about today, and it is an indisputable fact that Obama, or anyone else, does not have a genuine 2007 COLB document. What is posted online is as bogus as a four-dollar bill.

Obama ascended to the position of President by fraudulent means, including document fraud, Internet fraud, voter fraud, and campaign funding fraud, to name a few. The only question at hand now is whether he will be removed by invalidating his election, or by the articles of impeachment. If I were a Democratic Congressman, and I was going to be implicated in this fraud, I'd be calling for impeachment in a New York minute.

FReeper Ron Polarik, Ph D State: Colorado

[mojitojoe]

Does Obama have a fistful of Maliah’s hair in that top photo?
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ICK!

[mojitojoe]

Whatever. It’s hard to dig out the scrubbed and buried facts when people clog the threads defending. If you think all is kosher then why bother to muddy up the threads and disrupt others?

[Churchillspirit]

I need something to hold on to

My money is on The Mossad to bring The Kenyan's birthplace to light.

After the way Israel has been insulted by "Resident" Obama, they could have a lot to gain.

[justiceseeker93]

Clearly, the hospital believes that he was born there as well.

Many people and institutions and organizations believe a lot of things. This is not a matter of theory or religion or faith, it is a matter of fact, i.e., it's either true of false. The hospital might like to believe that O was born there, but, in the absence of corroborating eyewitnesses or documents, it is merely conjecture at best.

Notice the contrast with just about every other president in our history, dating back to the eighteenth century, whose birth places are beyond dispute. The same would hold for just about every high ranking US government official down through the years. What are Obama and his friends hiding by not producing dispositive evidence?

[BP2]

There are several possibilities of the theory of Obama being born in Canada. The one that makes sense is that Ann checked into an orphanage to have the baby, perhaps originally to even give Obama Jr up for adoption.

Here's one such location:

Found here: Canadian orphanages
Archived here: ORPHANS' HOME WEBSITE

B.C. Protestant Orphans' Home was located at the peak of King's Road in Victoria, British Columbia. It is still around today but it is called the Cridge Centre for the Family. It was founded in 1873 by Rev. Edward Cridge and closed in 1969 due to changing attitudes of child care. It raised more than 1,600 orphans by the time it closed. There are about 800 of these orphans still living who say it was a great opportunity to be raised here. Most of the records are still held at the Cridge Centre. [CAN]

But then Ann came back across to Seattle to raise Obama Jr, possibly riding back on the ferry, which may have allowed them to get back across the border unregistered and with greater ease. Ann and baby Obama were seen just weeks after he was born in Seattle by one of Ann's high school friends.

[hoosiermama]

I know.
But there are those who see our brainstorming as muddying the thread too....I find it stimulating...makes me think outside the box...and go searching in other aspects.

[mojitojoe]

Know what? I think I was wrong and you are right. I now recall him from another post and he did say he was a cop and he was ripping on BO being gay. I honestly don’t see him being a troll. Just a Yankee cop, like you said.
When you said he was a cop that reminded me of this post. I doubt a troll for Obama would say this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2260830/posts?page=177#177

[BP2]

Hard to keep all those lies straight isn’t it?

Yeah, like that Obama was with the grandparents back in Hawaii. We found out in January that she was WITH Ann (or Anna -- she kept changing her names) in Seattle:

This is Anna Obama phone listing, as listed in Seattle Reverse Directory, 1961-1962.

Of particular note is that 6 lines above Ann's name is "Bernice Payne". For those who may not remember, "Madelyn Payne" was Ann's mother's maiden name.

What are the odds of that? Hmmm....

[hoosiermama]

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

Larry’s new book would confirm what WTC thinks. Coming out soon...Here’s the conclusion. (Lucy was it you who spotted a wedding ring on bO’s hand in a picture that would be dated a couple of years before he and MO were married....Not uncommon for the gay men I know.)

Conclusion:
“Regardless of what one may think of me; one thing that no one can deny is: Larry Sinclair has always admitted to his actions no matter what the consequences. Have I lived the perfect life? No. Have I ever blamed my actions in life on others or my surroundings? No. Have I tried to hide my past? No.

If the Obama surrogates/supporters, the bloggers and the internet thugs claim that I am lying is to be believed, can someone explain to me why the massive amounts of time, money and man power that has been devoted in attacking me non stop for more than a year?

I stand by my statements about Barack Obama selling and using Cocaine on November 6th and 7th, 1999. I stand by my statements that Barack Obama engaged in gay sex with me on November 6th and 7th, 1999. I stand by my statements that I was contacted by the murdered Donald Young and the statements that Donald Young made to me.

The bottom line is that no one can say I am not being truthful, because none of you were there. But Barack Obama and his organization know my statements to be truthful. That I personally know and take refuge in despite the continuing threats and attacks.

“The Truth Will Always Set You Free!”

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[Vendome]

“Natural Born Curiosity”. That’s funny. wish I had thought of that

[Vendome]

place holder on my phone today BHO vs IG regarding veracity of BC

[Vendome]

that’s correct. You absolutely must provide certified BC with a raised seal, etc. You know the drill.

I have posted the requirements and links to the State Department and they are unambiguous about the requirements.

Can’t post them today as I am on Cell phone and it would take to long.

Besides I gotta back to the back and forth with WTC911

[Vendome]

trolling along like sweet apple songs, muddy river,...

Roll on Mississippi ...

lol

[Vendome]

aw come on enough with the facts.

Clinton was so “Peachy” he cannot even argue before SCOTUS.

Who paid $1 million in punishment he was ordered to pay? /S

[wtc911]

There's a "troll list"? What is this, sixth grade?

btw...read your other message and understand completely.

[mendedheart]

I was born in VA- my husband in PA- daughter in FL- granddaughters in CA. All of us had to have the long form birth certificate filled out before we could apply for a passport. We live in CA. My great granddaughter one year old needed one for going on a cruise to Europe. She had to have a passport long filled out form born in Newport Beach, CA. Her mom & dad both had to be with her when they applied with her birth certificate.(both of them born in CA)
When my husband was flying for a airline he only had the certificate of birth but had to send to PA for long form copy to get his passport.
I don't know about other states not named above but you can check out requirements for passports on their site.

[mendedheart]

I was born in VA- my husband in PA- daughter in FL- granddaughters in CA. All of us had to have the long form birth certificate filled out before we could apply for a passport. We live in CA. My great granddaughter one year old needed one for going on a cruise to Europe. She had to have a passport long filled out form born in Newport Beach, CA. Her mom & dad both had to be with her when they applied with her birth certificate.(both of them born in CA)
When my husband was flying for a airline he only had the certificate of birth but had to send to PA for long form copy to get his passport.
I don't know about other states not named above but you can check out requirements for passports on their site.

[BIGLOOK]

I see you're a medic or have some affiliation with the medical profession. So please consider this information with an open mind. There was no Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu in 1961. The hospital wasn't built until the early '70s....open for business around '74 or '75. There was the Kapiolani Clinic for Women and Children which had been in business since near the turn of the century and it did all the things a clinic would normally do, well baby check ups, vaccinations, minor surgeries and triage, sending serious cases to Queen's or Kaiser hospitals for treatment or women in labor for delivery.

At the time of Statehood in 1959, there were still a lot of home deliveries happening in Hawaii since large segments of the population were plantation workers from the P.I., Japan, China and Portugal and Puerto Rico. Midwives were the norm and the clinic was a gratis or affordable post natal medical facility available to all according to Queen Kapiolani's wishes. The Kapiolani Clinic was established to provide medical aid to them and did stellar and compassionate work assisting the poor.

Queen Kapiʻolani established the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home, where Hawaiian mothers could receive care, as well as their newborn babies. It survives today as the Kapiʻolani Medical Center. Kapi'olani Park in Waikiki was named after the Queen by her husband, Mo'i (King) Kalākaua.

[ga medic]

two of my children were born in Virginia. They were issued the short form birth certificates when they were born. We recently used those birth certificates to get them passports, and had no problems. The passports were issued in Atlanta, and both my wife and I had to be present. There were no questions about the birth certificates, and they received passports just fine. I have never seen a long form birth certificate for any of my children. They have all gotten passports without them.

[ga medic]

You seem to have a solid knowledge of the Kapiolani history. Are you saying that they didn’t deliver babies in 1961 or that it was not a hospital in 1961? I would find it odd that a hospital would post a letter from BO claiming that he was born at Kapiolani hospital, if the hospital did not even deliver babies at that time. I would guarantee that someone at the hospital would point that out.