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1 posted on 06/14/2009 3:23:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Don't know how reliable this is....but was referenced on this Blog at Huffington Post :

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2 posted on 06/14/2009 3:26:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Just think how bad this would be without the Iranian 2nd Amendment!!!!! Oops !!!!!!!!
3 posted on 06/14/2009 3:28:24 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am convinced that the vast majority of people under the age of 35 in the Middle East hate Islam and want real freedom, but are too afraid to speak up unless they can act in a group like what is going on now.


5 posted on 06/14/2009 3:29:49 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Frankly, except for the oil thing, it wouldn’t bother me if all of the countries in the middles went at each others’ throats.


6 posted on 06/14/2009 3:30:37 PM PDT by CaptRon
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He predicted that the so-called reformist camp -- who are not exactly humanists in the Western liberal sense -- may try and animate efforts to decapitate the regime and "do away with" Ahmadinejad and even the Supreme Leader himself.

This would be just the beginning. Once the Fundamentalists and the Supreme Leader are gone, the faux "reformers" won't hold long onto their power.

Musavi, Khatami and Co. are just transition, once the radicals are gone.

After the toppling of the Shah 1979, there were several cabinets that were NOT Khomeinist. It took almost a year until the regime was truely changed.

Likewise today, once the genie is out of the bottle and the Ayatollah is deposed, the people won't put up with faux "reformers". The next time real elections are being held, they WILL demand free elections, and no way the old guard will stay.

10 posted on 06/14/2009 3:33:06 PM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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Thanks for posting. Interesting stuff.


13 posted on 06/14/2009 3:34:43 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Politics 101: when those in power are threatened by domestic opponents, create an external crisis to bring about a national rally-around-the-flag mood in an attempt to unify. Israel, I’m sure, is on a higher state of alert.


14 posted on 06/14/2009 3:34:55 PM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And may the Israelis drink Iran’s milkshake.


16 posted on 06/14/2009 3:36:26 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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Ahmadinejad is now genuinely scared of Iranian society and of Mousavi and Rafsanjani

I am literally making popcorn at this very instant. This is Berlin Wall stuff.

Minute-by-minute twitter updates direct from Iran here http://www.scoopler.com/search/#%22iranelection%22

18 posted on 06/14/2009 3:39:27 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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One important factor to consider is the price of oil, and Iran's oil revenues. Oil is way down from a year ago, and oil forms a big part of government revenue. According to the CIA factbook, it's 85% of export revenue.

Iran is very poor, the government has to sustain a vast welfare state to keep the poor on their side, and the revenue just isn't there to keep things propped up for much longer.

The protesters seem to be from the educated class that actually keeps things running, and who are tired of holding up the welfare state.

47 posted on 06/14/2009 4:18:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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OMG. BUMP. MUST READ.


48 posted on 06/14/2009 4:18:03 PM PDT by Miss Behave
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The right is tenaciously consolidating its control over the state and refuses to yield... But the scariest point he made to me that I had not heard anywhere else is that this "coup by the right wing" has created pressures that cannot be solved or patted down by the normal institutional arrangements Iran has constructed.

By "right" & "right wing" does he mean folks who believe in individual liberties, and limited government, like America's "right?" That doesn't seem to fit - maybe he actually means "left" & "left wing:" statists who believe in government control, and rights based on race, religion, union membership, etc.

He predicted that the so-called reformist camp -- who are not exactly humanists in the Western liberal sense...

In the "Western liberal sense," 'reformists' are folks like Obama, who want to "reform" (i.e., increase the cost of, and limit access to) health care, "reform" (i.e., make more restrictive, with regard to individual freedoms) our so-called 'gun control' laws, and "reform" (i.e., eliminate the right to secret ballots) the voting process related to union representation.

Looks to me like the homicidal fascists currently controlling Iran are more akin to 'Western liberals' or 'progressives'...

56 posted on 06/14/2009 4:28:28 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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http://tehranlive.org/2009/06/14/iranian-protest-election-results-2/


60 posted on 06/14/2009 4:34:07 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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But the scariest point he made to me that I had not heard anywhere else is that this "coup by the right wing" has created pressures that cannot be solved or patted down by the normal institutional arrangements Iran has constructed.

Why would Obama support a right-wing coup? Can't believe Olberman is even interested in Iran.

65 posted on 06/14/2009 4:43:31 PM PDT by mia
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We live in interesting times.


76 posted on 06/14/2009 5:08:40 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ve been hearing this same crap since 1979.


81 posted on 06/14/2009 5:20:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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That is some fine “robust debate” Harry.


87 posted on 06/14/2009 5:48:30 PM PDT by phrespearit
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Clashes intensify at Iranian universities, 15 students severely wounded

Excerpt follows.
Per news.gooya.com, at least 15 students were severely wounded Sunday after clashes with police at a Tehran University dormitory. Shots were fired and the casualties could be much higher.

You cannot fight guns with books.

92 posted on 06/14/2009 5:58:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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Oil at $100 in 4..3..2...


94 posted on 06/14/2009 6:01:32 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

To the protestors: Keep it up! Put pressure on that regime! This is the news I’ve been waiting years to hear.


120 posted on 06/14/2009 7:05:13 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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