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This is the Guardian, UK - a more reliable source of information would be the Easter Bunny, so take it with a big grain of salt...

Having said that, if oil gets to $250, even $170, we really will be in a world of hurt not seen, well maybe ever.

1 posted on 06/10/2009 10:14:59 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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What’s to worry about? Our economy will be completely “green” at that point according to our (moronic) President and won’t need oil at all. /sarc


2 posted on 06/10/2009 10:17:23 PM PDT by Carling ("We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," - Warwick Spooner)
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Oil’s not going to get to $250 unless the economy fully recovers from the current recession. And given that the current recession (a GDP contraction of maybe a few percentage points) was able to bring it down more than 50%, I can’t imagine a return to high prices could do more than a few percentage points worth of damage.


3 posted on 06/10/2009 10:17:53 PM PDT by Arguendo
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In other news, as oil rose 2% today, the dollar slid another 2% against the EUR, the GBP, and the CAD indicating that the rise in the price of oil is not from the cost of oil, but the declining purchase power of the dollar...


4 posted on 06/10/2009 10:19:27 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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Sounds like a good time for a large gas tax. We’ll all be driving our ‘green’ cars getting a 200 miles a gallon built by Government Motors. No worry here.


13 posted on 06/10/2009 10:40:30 PM PDT by n2dubes
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I'm not feeling bad about those new Japanese motorcycles in my garage. They get 42 to 78 MPG. Using the bikes in fair weather will save money on fuel immediately and save wear/tear on my 4x4 vehicles now that the car companies have gone down the crapper. I will repair/maintain the 4x4 vehicles as long as possible. No new vehicle purchases. Especially not from government owned/controlled car companies.

The impact of high priced oil on the rest of the economy is going to be a major kick in the shins. We survive/thrive on cheap oil. Raise the price and our economy tanks. What a very different economy we have since the days of $10/bbl oil before Clinton sent Bill Richardson to the Middle East to screw things up. It couldn't have worked better for Clinton as oil prices rose rapidly in early 1999. Just in time to screw up the economy for the next President. The RATS seized control of both House and Senate in 2006. That set the stage for more manipulation to drive up oil prices. Killing the options to drill for our own oil while world demand rose made it easy to tilt the elections against the Republicans in 2008. Bush was blamed for the rotten policies of the RATS controlling Congress.

15 posted on 06/10/2009 10:46:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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$250? Sorry, time for the horse-n-carriage. Forget Obsmobiles.


16 posted on 06/10/2009 10:48:27 PM PDT by prismsinc (A.K.A. "The Terminator"!)
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Typical BS from the UK papers.

Americans changed their behavior when the price spikes.


18 posted on 06/10/2009 10:49:36 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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Actually, I believe this is possible, especially if big oil is taxed to pay for an 0bamathing.

I can imagine $5 or $10 per gallon gas.

To know that off Florida in billions of barrels and off the artic in billions of barrels & cubic feet of natural gas, as well as the shale in PA and the ND/MN oil (shale? sands?) we have so many riches. Oh yes, mustn’t forget the Utah natural gas riches either. Then there’s whatever is off CA. To think that we’d stall these 30-40 years after a big spill....when there are those nations who would willingly slant drill into our territory to get at our wealth without the slightest sense of responsibility, really tells us about the actual political will that now runs counter to the best interests of the American people, their families, their welfare, and, their wallets. Jobs will be lost. So will homes. But we’ll be ‘green.’


19 posted on 06/10/2009 10:52:42 PM PDT by combat_boots ("(We) must ...resist... those who would subjugate others to serve (my) interests." 0bama 6/5/2009)
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Guess I’ll have to move to Manhattan where I can walk to the grocery store. :)


21 posted on 06/10/2009 10:58:40 PM PDT by Cedar
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That oil price jumps during this economic downturn and heads will ROLL.


22 posted on 06/10/2009 10:58:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Socialism is the worst kind of Pollution.)
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Ok. I’ll be the first one to say that if gas gets to $4.00gal that the Obamination will indeed act.

They will announce a tax rebate for anyone earning under $40,000 year, for gas purchases. Osama will announce that he understands the plight of the little people and the government is ready to help by subsidizing their gas purchases.

And the rest of us better suck it up and empty our pockets to help them buy gas.


27 posted on 06/10/2009 11:14:10 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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The Oil spike last year was the catalyst to a lot of the turmoil we are seeing now.

We should nationalize money making industries, not money losing ones.

Imagine if we had the Army Corps of Engineers build four new refineries!

Gas at 1.50 a a gallon would propel our economy through the roof!

Oil is not traded and or produced freely, so we may as well benefit.

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49178

"CERA maintains its position that the reasons for US liquid fuel demand having peaked are economic and geopolitical in their nature, rather than in any way driven by geologic factors."

28 posted on 06/10/2009 11:52:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I swear by my life & my love of it, that I will never buy U.S.made goods again!- In Galts Vallley!)
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This is actually reassuring, I think we may be at a top. Last year as oil hit $140 people were predicting $500 or $800 a barrel and that was when the price started to fall. Later, as oil fell to $35 other “experts” were predicting $20 or $25 dollar oil, signalling the bottom. These wild claims one way or the other usually signify a top or a bottom in my observation.


31 posted on 06/11/2009 12:40:36 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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Having said that, if oil gets to $250, even $170, we really will be in a world of hurt not seen, well maybe ever.

Well, the US can choose between two version of "world of hurt".

It can either go to the Chinese and say: "We really do want to pay pack our debt, so we will balance the budget and raise taxes, because you deserve your money. US customers will work like slaves and the government will take their money for a few years, but that's the price you pay for the the boom."

Ah, well, not gonna happen. So that leaves us with option two. The US will say: "We can't service our debt. You didn't seriously think we would pay it back, did you? We'll simply inflate our way out of this. Say hello to the new Weimar Republic were gasoline will be a luxury noone can afford!"

Why the Meltdown Should Have Surprised No One
32 posted on 06/11/2009 2:43:19 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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$250 was predicted last year. The belief that any isolated trend will last forever leads to facist science (AGW) and financial ruin (tulips, tech stocks, residential real estate flipping, etc.)


33 posted on 06/11/2009 3:08:07 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find!)
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Manipulation in order to squeeze us in those little mini-Euro cars.


34 posted on 06/11/2009 5:24:42 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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36 posted on 06/11/2009 6:34:19 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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$250! Bravo Sierra!

Saw this morning that Chinese exports had drooped 26.4 percent in May! Imports dropped too.

Maybe $85? Depends on how low the US dollar gets with Obama.

37 posted on 06/11/2009 6:51:18 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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Some people beg for a World Economic War.

They just love it when everyone is miserable.


41 posted on 06/11/2009 7:10:12 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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We’ve been through this already, and the idea that oil is going to $200 or above has been proven to be laughable.

The world economy cannot run on $200-250 oil. It can’t even run on $150 oil. If oil spikes again, the economy will collapse even further.

Probably $70-90 is tolerable. Any more than that is probably not sustainable.


43 posted on 06/11/2009 7:18:07 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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