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You're Confederate ... But Don't Know It?
Unknown ^ | Unknown | Charley Reese

Posted on 06/06/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by Dick Bachert

by Charley Reese

Most of the political problems in this country won't be settled until more folks realize the South was right.

I know that goes against the P.C. edicts, but the fact is that on the subject of the constitutional republic, the Confederate leaders were right and the Northern Republicans were wrong.

Many people today even argue the Confederate positions without realizing it.

For example, if you argue for strict construction of the Constitution, you are arguing the Confederate position; when you oppose pork-barrel spending, you are arguing the Confederate position; and when you oppose protective tariffs, you are arguing the Confederate position. But that's not all.

When you argue for the Bill of Rights, you are arguing the Confederate position, and when you argue that the Constitution limits the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, you are arguing the Confederate position.

One of the things that gets lost when you adopt the politically correct oversimplification that the War Between the States was a Civil War all about slavery is a whole treasure load of American political history.

It was not a civil war. A civil war is when two or more factions contend for control of one government. At no time did the South intend or attempt to overthrow the government of the United States . The Southern states simply withdrew from what they correctly viewed as a voluntary union. They formed their own union and adopted their own constitution.

The U.S. government remained intact. There were just fewer states, but everything else remained as exactly as it was. You can be sure that, with as much bitterness and hatred of the South that there was in the North, the Northerners would have tried Confederates for treason if there had been any grounds. There weren't, and the South's worst enemy knew that.

Abraham Lincoln's invasion of the South was entirely without any constitutional authority. And it's as plain as an elephant in a tea party that Lincoln did not seek to preserve the Union to end slavery. All you have to do is read his first inaugural address. What Lincoln didn't want to lose was tax revenue generated by the South.

As Northern states gained a majority in both houses, they began to use the South as a cash cow. Here's how it worked: Most Southerners who exported cotton bartered the cotton in Europe for goods. When the protective tariffs were imposed, that meant Southerners had to pay them. To make matters worse, the North would then use the revenue for pork-barrel projects in its states. The South was faced with either paying high tariffs and receiving no benefits from the revenue or buying artificially high-priced Northern goods.

Southerners opposed pork-barrel spending. Their correct view was that, because the federal government was merely the agent of all the states, whatever money it spent should be of equal benefit. Their position on public lands was that they belonged to all the people and the federal government had no authority to give the lands away to private interests.

Northerners had announced they would not be bound by the Constitution. What you had was the rise of modern nationalism fighting the original republic founded by the American Revolution.

So, regardless of where you were born, you may be a Southerner philosophically.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charliereese; confederacy; confederate; constitution; cwii; dixie; freedixie; freedom; slavery; southwasright; statesrights; warbetweenstates
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To: rockrr

that is a funny name, isn’t it?

:)

But then again, without that funny name, people would not notice him gone, not care, or even know he was gone


521 posted on 06/25/2009 7:06:40 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

WIJG: Quite obviously, you believe the "union" to be something other than a political union.

KK: I never thought about it one way or the other considering the term “political union”.

WIJG: By all means, please enlighten us - is the union of American States "political," or is it something that is not "political?"

I wrote:  “I never thought about it one way or the other considering the term “political union” and all of a sudden you put it on me to “enlighten” everybody about something I had not thought about one way or the other using your term?

Since you’re the one who brought the “political union” thing up (in response to my “A new government but not a new Union.”), why don’t youenlighten us - is the union of American States "political," or is it something that is not "political?"  Not that I’m all that interested because from my point of view you’re just using a weak arguing technique, diverting the discussion from the main line (is the Union continuous or did one Union end and a new Union begin with the Constitution) to a new area in which you think you can dominate.

In all honesty, you don't seem to have "thought about" much of any thing, based on your posts...

Another weak arguing technique: insult and ridicule.  Also a technique used in the pseudo Delphi process for reaching consensus (as opposed to the legitimate Delphi process).  And a technique used by some in authority to show “who the boss is”.

 


522 posted on 06/25/2009 8:17:02 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: rockrr
as i said, your departure (may it be SOON!) will be met with GREAT JUBILATION on the part of DECENT people.

to paraphrase an old saying: Nothing about your tenure will grace it quite so much as your leaving, forver.

free dixie,sw

523 posted on 06/25/2009 8:45:31 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

I bet I outlast you Squat2pee.


524 posted on 06/25/2009 8:58:18 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
your #520 is a classic case of why you are thought to be a DUNCE as well as a VULGAR-talking BIGOT of the first rank.

do you REALLY expect anyone to believe that BILGE???

also, once more you have succeeded in confirming what i said of you earlier: you cannot seem to write a paragraph without being CRUDE/VULGAR.

laughing AT you, LOUT, as most of your readers DO.

free dixie,sw

525 posted on 06/25/2009 9:01:07 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: rockrr
i don't foresee you being here much longer.

everyone will be RELIEVED at your departure.

free dixie,sw

526 posted on 06/25/2009 9:02:23 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

How about a wager?


527 posted on 06/25/2009 9:02:39 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
fwiw, i predict that what will get you banished forever from FR will be your CRUDE & VULGAR language. (several DAMNyankees aren't here anymore solely for that reason.)

but PLEASE continue. you damage the DAMNyankees with every post.

free dixie,sw

528 posted on 06/25/2009 9:05:52 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: rockrr
i don't wager with ignorant IDIOTS and/or VULGAR-talking LOUTS.

free dixie,sw

529 posted on 06/25/2009 9:07:15 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

chicken


530 posted on 06/25/2009 9:07:33 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
NOPE. just UNWILLING to deal with a CREEP/CRETIN. i'm perfectly willing to RIDICULE you, but little else.

but PLEASE keep going as you are & you'll continue to DAMAGE the DYs as long as you are allowed to BE on FR.

free dixie,sw

531 posted on 06/25/2009 9:11:56 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

buc buc b’gaaa!


532 posted on 06/25/2009 9:16:20 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
don't you get tired of being thought both a FOOL & a BIGOT???

free dixie,sw

533 posted on 06/25/2009 9:17:28 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

chicken


534 posted on 06/25/2009 9:18:19 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
what part of #531 were you too STUPID to understand???

laughing AT you BIGOT.

free dixie,sw

535 posted on 06/25/2009 9:30:34 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

buc buc!


536 posted on 06/25/2009 9:32:29 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
actually, i don't think that i've said that you LIED. LYING, as MOST of your DAMNyankee cohorts do, takes a certain (though small) amount of IQ.

what i HAVE said repeatedly is that you are CRUDE, SELF-impressed, VULGAR-talking & pitifully IGNORANT.

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

537 posted on 06/25/2009 9:41:44 PM PDT by stand watie (Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, LET MY PEOPLE GO.)
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To: stand watie

chicken


538 posted on 06/25/2009 9:49:10 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When you argue the confederate position, you are arguing for abolishing not just the Constitution, but the USA itself.

How so? There was still a United States of America, just to the North of the Confederate States of America. Had Lincoln not suspended habeas corpus, the US Constitution would have been in effect in the United States of America, just not the Confederate States of America.

The forceful imposition of another Government on the Confederate States of America's freely adopted government flies in the face of the concept that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.

No one forced the States to seceede, they did so of their own volition, revoking their consent.

539 posted on 06/25/2009 9:49:16 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>Robert E. Lee was a tyrant and a dictator.

WOW. I suppose then you’ve never read the speech he gave to his troops after surrendering. He basically told his men “I don’t want you to carry on this war, let’s get back to our lives; we fought for what we believed in but we lost.” (Very rough paraphrase, but certainly something anyone in the army could respect.)


540 posted on 06/25/2009 10:23:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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