Posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
Kansas Abortionist George Tiller was shot today as he was going to Church.
(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...
When I saw this headline, I assumed it was a false report. People like Tiller never pay for their sins. If true, shouldn’t Sebelieus be a pallbearer, a domain no longer left to men? If ture, abortion advocates will use this to advance their cause. KS will probably turn more pro-abortion than ever.
“we need to say we are prochoice on the issue of shooting abortionists -
Because it IS absurd!
And it makes the whole prochoice term look absurd!””
Very effective.
I don’t condone murdering anybody. But I shed no tears for him.
You’re asking the wrong person to stop. It should have been the guy that started it all, not Manic_Episode.
How's that working out for them?
“The difference between Hitler and the liberal abortionists: the happy face and good intentions”
and you forgot,,,the guy who shot him today.
This is an honest question because I am not following your logic. What about rape or incest makes it okay to perform an abortion? Maybe if I understood why you oppose abortion, I could understand. I oppose abortion because it is murdering a baby. It is also violence against women. A baby conceived by rape or incest is no less human and more violence against the woman is not a solution.
I don’t think there is a death penalty in KS, is there?
Not if it hadn’t been reported stolen yet.
Bruce on Operation Rescue: Non-violent civil disobedience.
Glenn: How’s that working out for them?
Bruce: As opposed to what? I’ve mentioned above that more people are now IDing themselves as pro-life than pro-choice - this is a good development.
IF the purists would allow a “States Rights” abortion bill, a simple act of Congress could reverse Roe V. Wade, and save MILLIONS of lives!
The purists want to “save all the babies or none of the babies” and we SAVE NONE OF THE BABIES!
Nope, you can not point to a single political battle that ever got ahead with an “all or nothing” approach.
It is not logical, it is not practical, it is not smart.
pic ping!
Yes, and people in KS will be particularly likely to listen to liberal commentators and turn even more liberal than they already are.
Sounds like something a liberal says.Not to me it doesn't. Sounds right on target and I've voted for every Republican President since I've been old enough to vote.
“What if the shooter did not see this as revenge or punishment, but as defense of the innocent?
I do not support shooting abortionists, but you are using Biblical verses that do not apply.”
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We can have our opinion on whether this verse applies. You are making assumptions about the shooter’s motives, as am I. If my assumptions are correct, and they very well could be, then that verse perfectly applies. He was motivated by *something* to walk into a church and kill Tiller. I think odds are that he thought he was the ‘hand of God’ or the ‘vengeance of God.’ You’re suggesting that he was thinking more subtlely about ‘defense’ of the specific babies that Tiller was murdering.
I wish that shooter been even more subtle and sophisticated in his thinking to understand how many more thousands of babies he just condemned by setting back the pro-life movement in the minds of our youth.
But we will labor on and teach the young to grow up big and strong and to honor God.
Rape and Incest make up for far less than 5% of all abortions.
If it is not possible to pass a law without those exceptions, than passing a law WITH those exceptions is perfectly acceptable and morally REQUIRED!
I see what you are saying.
Why do you think Muslims get liberals to obey them when they tell them to back off? Why do you think libearls feel free and a life cause to attack Christians?
I would say it is only “extreme” civil disobedience and even the death of a few abortionists that has dramatically reduced the number of docs will to go into the abortion industry. I think liberals could cause war like they did with slavery.
That is morally corrupt.
It is my belief that the only consistent approach is what the Catholic Church teaches...that no illicit act can be made licit due to a desire achieve a desirable outcome for another being. All direct abortion is intrinsically evil.
"The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:
'The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death.'(79)
'The moment a positive law deprives a category of human beings of the protection which civil legislation ought to accord them, the state is denying the equality of all before the law. When the state does not place its power at the service of the rights of each citizen, and in particular of the more vulnerable, the very foundations of a state based on law are undermined. . . As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child's rights.' (80)
2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.
If you killed anyone in combat, odds are the person you killed was a much more decent person than Tiller.
Sorry, you are wrong on that point.
The Catholic Church recognize the rare need to protect the life of the Mother, and supports actions that give “equal protection to both” -—
Deliver the baby, even if premature, and try to keep the baby alive!
Yes girlie, ive heard of the ten comandments. Maybe you’ve heard of “judge not lest you be judged”,, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone”,,, “and father forgive them, they know not what they do”.
Funny,,, a lot of “Christians” love the violent new testament so much, but don’t have much use for the words attributed directly to Christ himself.
And you didnt address my point. Moses murders innocent smiling babies, kills mothers,, and pimps out the young daughters of those mothers to his soldiers. That muxt be ok with you too, after all, its in exodus,, and god did command it.
Look to Jesus.
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