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Obama’s Transportation Secretary Says He Wants to ‘Coerce People Out of Their Cars’
CNS News ^ | May 26, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 05/26/2009 5:42:24 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: ml/nj
Apparently he said it, you'll find a couple hundred hits for the phrase.

"In a question-and-answer session following his remarks, Lahood expressed exasperation with the suggestion from some of his fellow Republicans that redirecting federal transportation money from highways to other modes of transportation amounted to government meddling in individual decisions.

"About everything we do around here is government intrusion into people's lives," he said.

"It is a way to coerce people out of their cars. Yeah."


141 posted on 05/26/2009 8:50:18 AM PDT by SJackson (in the fight against terrorism, no middle ground, half-measures leave you half-exposed, D. Cheney)
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To: SJackson
I stole this from the wikipedia article on Atlas Shrugged:

Rand characterizes the actions of government employees in a way that is consistent with public choice theory, describing how the language of altruism is used to pass legislation that is nominally in the public interest (e.g., the "Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog Rule," and "The Equalization of Opportunity Bill,") but which in reality serves special interests and government agencies at the expense of the public and the producers of value.

I like bike paths too. But, as you say, an idea which may have some merit seems to morph into something else -- something rather frightening.

142 posted on 05/26/2009 8:53:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: usmcobra
About 50 years ago the big three auto makers conspired to destroy the Street Car and electric bus companies and were socked by congress with a couple of thousand dollars in fines.

That myth has made the rounds of various left-wing sites for years, and even became a subplot for a movie of a few years back. Wikipedia devotes some space to it, if that means anything.

Please take a couple of minutes and read this article and note the references at the end if you want more truth rather than liberal conspiracy fiction.

Yes, streetcars were popular when the alternative was walking or hiring a horse and buggy. After the automobile got going in the early part of the 20th Century and mass-production made it affordable to the average working man (blame H. Ford), streetcars were considered not just slow transportation but a nuisance. Cities actively tried to get rid of them as bad for business.

143 posted on 05/26/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: Roccus
That was from the George Will column that LaHood took exception to. It was my intention to link to the column as well as the Antiplanner's brief comment, so here it is for the rest of you:

Ray Lahood, Transformed


144 posted on 05/26/2009 9:06:04 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

Did the big three conspire and get fined for their conspiracy?

Yes they did, that is not a myth that is fact.

I did a little race once in New Orleans between my father in his car and me on a street car, not only did I beat him to the appointed destination but I did so by ten minutes.

Street cars are anything but slow, they spend most of their time coasting with the motors off or waiting for cars to get out of their way and electric buses were as fast as any diesel bus.

The biggest reason why cities removed street cars and electric buses from their transit systems were the tracks and the overhead wires. The Automotive industry sold the idea that they were ugly and dangerous.


145 posted on 05/26/2009 9:09:53 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra
You can believe what you want. It's a free country (or it used to be).

If you like public transportation, as apparently you do, take it. Just don't be demanding the rest of us pay for it, or worse, live the "lifestyle" that accommodates it. I think that is the crux of the issue and the point of this article.

146 posted on 05/26/2009 9:24:31 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

Thanks...I realized that and read them both earlier. I even posted the links on the Rush thread. ;)


147 posted on 05/26/2009 9:45:38 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: shibumi

Done toldja he really *is* “the new Lincoln”.

Y’all better start buying/renting copies of Mad Max.


148 posted on 05/26/2009 9:56:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander

Already own ‘em.

Signed,

Hummungus, Lord of the Waste Land


149 posted on 05/26/2009 9:59:21 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: shibumi

I know you do...I meant the rest of the “y’alls”....:))

[or, to be grammatically correct “all y’alls”]


150 posted on 05/26/2009 10:04:23 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: dalereed

“Bicycles are foe little kids!”

And best I can tell from looking around my city, “undocumented workers”.

And in case anybody is wondering no, that is not a code-word for anything. I believe it is a very direct statement.


151 posted on 05/26/2009 10:11:09 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

It works real well — takes forever to go from Norman to Fort Worth and then you need transportation when you get there. It would be even worse coming from Fort Worth to Norman unless you want to visit the Court House or Jail where the Railroad Station is located. It takes an hour longer then if I drive and cost more money. I will keep driving my SUV to Texas and skip The Heartland Flyer.

Only good time to take the Heartland Flyer is for OU/TX and they make special arrangements in Fort Worth for that trip along with specials on the train.


152 posted on 05/26/2009 11:11:23 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor in 2010! Mark Rubio for FL US Senator in 2010!)
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To: logician2u

Does liking public transport make me a liberal?

I like street cars, and I know their value as machines.

Realistically one street car can move as many people from a suburban setting to a downtown area as 40 cars. In a continuous loop with a streetcar arriving every 2 to 5 minutes in a hour that can be the equivalent of 480 to 1200 cars per hour in a downtown parking garages or gridlock per hour.

Simple mathematics ought to tell anyone that if you can keep that many cars out of downtown areas people would be less stressed and the roads would be easier to travel.

Remember my original comment these people are idiots. they want to put everyone on bikes or in buses.


153 posted on 05/26/2009 11:47:30 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: SJackson

I remember another urban transformer that coerced people, from the cities to the countryside — Pol Pot. Mobility is the enemy of communism.


154 posted on 05/26/2009 1:48:20 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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155 posted on 05/26/2009 1:50:32 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: SJackson

Been saying this all along. Communists ... First your guns, then your mobility.


156 posted on 05/26/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: SJackson
Hey, ho, let's go!


157 posted on 05/26/2009 4:53:59 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: SJackson

I despise these people.


158 posted on 05/26/2009 4:56:01 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you're on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: WVKayaker

You got that right.


159 posted on 05/26/2009 6:17:01 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: SJackson
to explain his vision

I swear to the great volcano God Yaweh that if one more of these mofos has a freakin "vision" for my damn life I just might go ballistic.

Or at least start working on a "Cancer List"...

160 posted on 05/26/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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