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Terror plot suspects have lengthy criminal records
Google News ^ | May 22, 2009 | By MICHAEL HILL and JIM FITZGERAL

Posted on 05/22/2009 7:16:29 AM PDT by La Lydia

NEWBURGH, N.Y. — The four men accused of plotting to bomb New York City synagogues and shoot down military airplanes with missiles are down-and-out ex-convicts living on the margins in a faded industrial city. One is a petty criminal who spent a day in 2002 snatching purses and shooting at people with a BB gun from an SUV. His lawyer calls him "intellectually challenged." Three have histories of drug convictions, one of them for selling narcotics in a school zone...But if they sometimes seemed amateurish, the men were dangerous people fueled by their hatred for Jews and America, prosecutors said. The plotters managed to get their hands on what they thought were lethal explosives and a surface-to-air missile system, only to find out that they were inert devices supplied by the FBI in a sting operation.

"It's hard to envision a more chilling plot," assistant U.S. attorney Eric Snyder said. "These are extremely violent men."...

James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen were calm as they appeared in court Thursday...they face life in prison if convicted....

...Payen's lawyer said he was on medication for schizophrenia and has "a very low borderline" IQ....Payen, 27, did time for attempted assault — in 2002...Payen appears to be a Haitian citizen, while the other three are Americans. The Williamses are not related. New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said he believed the defendants knew each other from their time behind bars.... Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and "doing something to America" and was crestfallen that "the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already," the complaint said...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; blackmuslims; crimalien; cromitie; immigrant; islam; masjidalikhlas; newburgh4; ontawilliams; payen; terror; terrorists
Why was the Haitian still in our country after having committed several crimes, being a convicted felon, and having a "borderline IQ"?
1 posted on 05/22/2009 7:16:29 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
He was too retarded to be deported.
2 posted on 05/22/2009 7:25:30 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: La Lydia
From another story: "I was shocked when I heard about it," said Salahuddin Mustafa Muhammad, the imam or pastor of Masjid Al-Al-Ikhlas the mosque Cromitie and Payen attended occasionally. He described the two as poor and needy. Their economic hardship may have made them susceptible to involvement in the terror plot, he said.

According to Muhammad, a man in his 40s began frequenting the mosque more than a year ago and began espousing extremist views and talking about jihad, or holy war, to congregants. He also tried to encourage mosque members to become involved in unspecified activities, and offered them $25,000 to do so.

I am not sure I buy this. Sounds like he is trying to cast blame on the undercover informant.

3 posted on 05/22/2009 7:27:17 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

In New York there’s no such thing as an illegal alien.


4 posted on 05/22/2009 7:27:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: angcat

What, we have some kind of obligation to take in each and every mental deficient in the entire world and put up with their BS?


5 posted on 05/22/2009 7:28:00 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: angcat

Smart enough to stay.


6 posted on 05/22/2009 7:28:08 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Ayers Lied, People Died. No Justice, No Peace.)
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To: angcat

These are not terrorist.....these guys are a bunch of morons trying to make a name for themselves.

The terrorist are the ones who disappeared into the shadows after pumping these guys up to get them to attempt what they were about to attempt.

Go after the real Mussie.


7 posted on 05/22/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
They converted to Islam in prison. This does make them terrorist. Our prison system is infiltrated with cells that are doing this converting.
8 posted on 05/22/2009 7:29:59 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: La Lydia

They are just victims of society..../sarc/


9 posted on 05/22/2009 7:34:37 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: La Lydia

On top of all that they were Dimocrats.


10 posted on 05/22/2009 7:38:59 AM PDT by Piquaboy (Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
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To: La Lydia

And our Clueless Leader thinks the terrorists at Gitmo should be given access to our prisons, where they can recruit mentally challenged minority members to join in their jihad against the USA. He should be arrested for aiding and abetting terrorists.


11 posted on 05/22/2009 8:15:27 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: La Lydia

The NY Jewish liberal voters were a lot safer under the GWB administration. With BOZerO making nice with terrorists lately, the security may diminish——let’s hope and pray for continued protection from these warped cretins of Mohammed.


12 posted on 05/22/2009 8:24:18 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: angcat

Who converted these guys? Who taught them to hate the USA and Jews? Whoever led them to commit terrorism is the perp that we really should be going after. We are fighting a CULT, an ideology. Go after the leaders, not the pawns.


13 posted on 05/22/2009 11:04:24 AM PDT by darth
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To: darth
They are sleeper cells in the Country that have a job and that job is to convert our prisoners to Islam. You should read about it. Lot's of books about this like “Infiltration” by Paul Sperry.
14 posted on 05/22/2009 11:23:46 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: angcat; All

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15 posted on 08/28/2009 10:46:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cindy
Cromitie was burning with anger about the U.S. war in Afghanistan, where his parents had lived before he was born, according to the criminal complaint. He told the informant he was interested in jihad and "doing something to America" and was crestfallen that "the best target (the World Trade Center) was hit already," the complaint said...

Did you catch this about the Newburgh 4?

16 posted on 08/29/2010 12:53:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Yes, but only scanned it as I’m working on some personal things.

I appreciate any updates Piasa.

I’m going to look at it closely and start a link set this week.


17 posted on 08/29/2010 1:27:19 AM PDT by Cindy
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