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Ida: the Real Story of this “Scientific Breakthrough”
AiG ^ | May 21, 2009

Posted on 05/21/2009 10:38:06 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

So-called “missing link” Ida hit the media in a major way on Monday of this week, with even search engine Google falling prey to the hype and modifying its search page banner to show Ida. We quickly responded with a full article, Ida: the Missing Link at Last?

Yet within a few hours of the unveiling of the fossil—coordinated to coincide with the publication of the scientific paper on Ida—some better media outlets began to report some worrying things about the research. It seems as though the scientific process had been rushed and the claims exaggerated in a bid to promote a new documentary and book on the fossil. Sadly, media pressures sometimes trump full research integrity (something we’ve seen before), and careless media sources reprint explosive (and unjustified) quotations without consulting as many scientists as they should. Thankfully, though, many in the scientific community are questioning the research and beginning to become more vocal about their concerns regarding how good science and media aren’t the best mix.

But don’t just take our word for it—read these amazing excerpts that reveal the Ida hype for what it truly is...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creation; darwiniusmasillae; evolution; goodgodimnutz; ida; intelligentdesign
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To: freedumb2003

Perhaps, but this one was conducted by a well known university and was written up in the Wall Street Journal, so I would imagine it followed scientific protocol. Does it bother you that Evo-atheists are so much more likely than Bible-believing regular church attenders to believe in Big Foot, UFOs, astrology, ESP and various other New Age nonsense?


61 posted on 05/21/2009 3:50:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: DoctorMichael
That means alot coming from a brainwashed derwood-drone. LOL!

You may now return to pooring milk over your derwood-idols, "Dr." Michael.


62 posted on 05/21/2009 3:57:36 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Jeff Gordon

You are quite right...the darwiniacs are in a state of panic, and must resort to desperate measures to delay the inevitable demise of the HMS Beagle. That’s where Ida the “missing link” (LOL!) comes in.


63 posted on 05/21/2009 4:03:28 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Misterioso

Is this your announcement that only Christians are permitted on Free Republic? Has this been cleared with Jim?

Huh? Where did I say that? Typical “scientist” making erroneous conclusions based on a premise they WANT to hear, not on what is really there...I was merely pointing to a site where your enlightened brethren dwell so you can drink deeply from their wisdom...


64 posted on 05/21/2009 4:04:42 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: WondrousCreation

I laugh everytime I post it too! May the darwin-idol be a constant source of enjoyment for us both until the darwin-drones are finally forced to admit that they picked the wrong religion :o)

PS Of course, once the HMS Beagle goes down, the Evos will try to find a new way to make an ape out of man. And as always, we will be ready for them!


65 posted on 05/21/2009 4:12:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: jessduntno

It may interest you to know that I have never gone to DU and never expect to, despite your recommendation.


66 posted on 05/21/2009 4:18:02 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: nuke rocketeer

How old is the universe?
How old is the solar system?
How old is the Earth?
Is the speed of light a universal constant?
DO you ‘believe’ in nuclear physics?

Well I’m not to sure how your 5th question play’s into this, but the answer to the other 4 is “nobody know’s for sure”


67 posted on 05/21/2009 4:19:37 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: GodGunsGuts

Please try to come up with a better argument than the cliche “I know you are, but what am I?” Pee Wee Hermon could get away with it. You can’t.


68 posted on 05/21/2009 4:21:10 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"My main test on the intellectual honesty of the creationistas: How old is the universe? How old is the solar system? How old is the Earth? Is the speed of light a universal constant? DO you ‘believe’ in nuclear physics?"

All of which have nothing to do with Evolution. Why are you straying from the topic? Is it because this topic further proves what a bunch of wacko's Evo's are?
69 posted on 05/21/2009 4:22:36 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Oh no. science! must ridicule! must supress!

The problem Jeff is that the Ida story is being challenged by serious mainstream scientists, not the mere "creationists" at this link. Compare "Ida" to the hysterical media treatment of manmade global warming and you will begin to understand.

70 posted on 05/21/2009 4:28:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jaime2099
All of which have nothing to do with Evolution.

You wouldn't think so, but there seems no shortage of conspiracy theories claiming otherwise.

71 posted on 05/21/2009 4:34:08 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

You really should ask yourself why you feel compelled to beg that I cease pointing out that the darwiniacs are in a state of panic over the fact that the HMS Beagle is sinking under the massive waves of scientific falsification. Your response constitutes yet more proof that Darwinism is a religion, not science.


72 posted on 05/21/2009 4:36:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Dusty Road
Well I’m not to sure how your 5th question play’s into this, but the answer to the other 4 is “nobody know’s for sure”

Good luck convincing them. They believe almost anything is possible except God created the universe without Evolution, because that's the only scenario that isn't possible in their eyes. Aliens, sure why not? Organisms randomly changing into an entire animal kingdom and humankind, of course! But God creating the universe, now you're talking crazy talk.

Making up Evolution proof like the story in this topic is just fine, but dare mention God as creator without Evolution and they'll get plenty uppity. Care to take a guess why? If you said because of science, then you're an evolutionist and wrong (see news story above as proof). But if you said because they are God (literal interpretation of the Bible) haters, then you understand the charade.
73 posted on 05/21/2009 4:39:41 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: tacticalogic
You wouldn't think so, but there seems no shortage of conspiracy theories claiming otherwise.

You're welcome to call them conspiracy theories if you like, but I see them as legitimate science with cow dung hidden inside. Old earth, old solar system, it makes no difference. None of them even remotely aid the inaccurate, false hope based, anything but God created the universe as it says in the Bible, religion of Evolution.
74 posted on 05/21/2009 4:48:08 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Misterioso

“It may interest you to know that I have never gone to DU and never expect to, despite your recommendation.”

I can’t imagine why you think that would interest me, but do what you like...I really don’t care...


75 posted on 05/21/2009 5:28:14 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

A couple of things:

* Your childish attempt to link an understanding of science and atheism is very tired and silly. I am Christian and you don’t get to decide anyone’s faith, especially mine.

* My wife, also a Christian, SAW a bona-fide UFO — you got a problem with that?

As far as the rest, yes I would imagine atheists, no matter what their understanding of science is, would probably tend to substitute new age crap for their void of belief.

But go ahead and provide a link to your study so I can see what it really says. Your ability to understand and repeats facts is, shall we say, badly lacking.


76 posted on 05/21/2009 5:34:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Misterioso

It is pretty standard stuff that passes for argumentation. If you understand science you must be a liberal atheist.

They do it because it makes them feel good, since their so-called Christian faith is clearly not present, given the vitriol and hate against science and people who understand science on these threads.


77 posted on 05/21/2009 5:36:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Actually, it’s enough for me that you admit that Evo-atheists are among the most superstitious people in the country...to include, of course, their religious committment to darwood’s materialist creation myth.


78 posted on 05/21/2009 5:42:52 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: freedumb2003

==If you understand science you must be a liberal atheist.

LOL...if you understand science that means you are a Biblical Creationist/IDer. If you worship at the Temple of Darwin that usually means you are a liberal atheist, or a Christian compromiser, which in many cases are one in the same thing.


79 posted on 05/21/2009 5:51:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

>>LOL...if you understand science that means you are a Biblical Creationist/IDer.

Then why do you have such a bad grasp of science?

>>. If you worship at the Temple of Darwin that usually means you are a liberal atheist, or a Christian compromiser, which in many cases are one in the same thing.

To understand something is not to worship it. Like I said, you don’t get to make that call. And if YOU are an example of a Christian, most people would run away from Christianity.


80 posted on 05/21/2009 6:12:14 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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