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Last time I heard the term "Preventive Detention" in connection with the Gleichschaltung that allowed absolute control by the Nazis.

Verordnung des Reichspräsidenten zum Schutz von Volk und Staat. Vom 28. Februar 1933

Auf Grund des Artikels 48 Abs. 2 der Reichsverfassung wird zur Abwehr kommunistischer staatsgefährdender Gewaltakte folgendes verordnet:

§ 1

Die Artikel 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 und 153 der Verfassung des Deutschen Reichs werden bis auf weiteres außer Kraft gesetzt. Es sind daher Beschränkungen der persönlichen Freiheit, des Rechts der freien Meinungsäußerung, einschließlich der Pressefreiheit, des Vereins- und Versammlungsrechts, Eingriffe in das Brief-, Post-, Telegraphen- und Fernsprechgeheimnis, Anordnungen von Haussuchungen und von Beschlagnahmen sowie Beschränkungen des Eigentums auch außerhalb der sonst hierfür bestimmten gesetzlichen Grenzen zulässig.

§ 2

Werden in einem Lande die zur Wiederherstellung der öffentlichen Sicherheit und Ordnung nötigen Maßnahmen nicht getroffen, so kann die Reichsregierung insoweit die Befugnisse der obersten Landesbehörde vorübergehend wahrnehmen.

§ 3

Die Behörden der Länder und Gemeinden (Gemeindeverbände) haben den auf Grund des § 2 erlassenen Anordnungen der Reichsregierung im Rahmen ihrer Zuständigkeit Folge zu leisten.

§ 4

Wer den von den obersten Landesbehörden oder den ihnen nachgeordneten Behörden zur Durchführung dieser Verordnung erlassenen Anordnungen oder den von der Reichsregierung gemäß § 2 erlassenen Anordnungen zuwiderhandelt oder wer zu solcher Zuwiderhandlung auffordert oder anreizt, wird, soweit nicht die Tat nach anderen Vorschriften mit einer schwereren Strafe bedroht ist, mit Gefängnis nicht unter einem Monat oder mit Geldstrafe von 150 bis zu 15000 Reichsmark bestraft.

Wer durch Zuwiderhandlung nach Abs. 1 eine gemeine Gefahr für Menschenleben herbeiführt, wird mit Zuchthaus, bei mildernden Umständen mit Gefängnis nicht unter sechs Monaten und, wenn die Zuwiderhandlung den Tod eines Menschen verursacht, mit dem Tode, bei mildernden Umständen mit Zuchthaus nicht unter zwei Jahren bestraft. Daneben kann auf Vermögenseinziehung erkannt werden.

Wer zu einer gemeingefährlichen Zuwiderhandlung (Abs. 2) auffordert oder anreizt, wird mit Zuchthaus, bei mildernden Umständen mit Gefängnis nicht unter drei Monaten bestraft.

The key paragraphs are 1 and 4(2). Sounds exactly what Ø is proposing here!

1 posted on 05/21/2009 8:05:49 AM PDT by markomalley
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Es sind daher Beschränkungen der persönlichen Freiheit, des Rechts der freien Meinungsäußerung

Ummmmmm, yeah.

2 posted on 05/21/2009 8:07:16 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: markomalley

If Bush had proposed the same thing, would we be calling him a Nazi? For some of the terrorists at Gitmo, this may be necessary.


3 posted on 05/21/2009 8:07:36 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: markomalley

Golly, I guess there is something to those ‘FEMA Camps’.


4 posted on 05/21/2009 8:07:51 AM PDT by BGHater (It's easy to be a Conservative now.)
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To: markomalley

Obama’s 4 years cannot pass fast enough.


5 posted on 05/21/2009 8:08:22 AM PDT by DonaldC
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I can’t believe he’s standing in FRONT of the Constitution READING this stuff. Geez, why doesn’t he just send an email ... he will read anything the teleprompter tells him. Such a fake ... and with the Constitution right behind him. He should turn around and read it!


6 posted on 05/21/2009 8:08:41 AM PDT by DHC-2 (Flag being flown: Title of Liberty (Reason at http://www.jdlinn.com/liberty))
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To: markomalley

Uhhh... dude, that’s in German.


7 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:06 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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These “human rights” people would be OK with obama doing this to US citizens ... just not terrorist suspects


9 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:17 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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WASHINGTON — President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

Obama is a Nazi piece of dogsh*t for even considering this. He's not doing it to go after muslim terrorists; he's doing this to go after all of the Right.

CWII BUMP

10 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:46 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried

Sounds remarkably like Gitmo, except for who might qualify for admittance...

11 posted on 05/21/2009 8:11:02 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Lord, please do not abandon us. Whatever our iniquities, have mercy on your children.
12 posted on 05/21/2009 8:11:03 AM PDT by Jolla
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Paragraph 1 translated-
The articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the condition of the German Reich are repealed set until further notice. There is from there restrictions of the personal freedom, the right of the free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, the association and meeting right, interferences in the letter, post office, telegraph and telephone secret, arrangements of house searches and of seizures as well as restrictions of the property also outside of the legal borders otherwise for this determined permissible.

Paragraph 4 translated-
Who contravenes the arrangements issued from the highest Land authorities or to them the subordinate authorities to the execution of this regulation or from the realm government in accordance with § 2 issued arrangements or who requests or stimulates to such offence, as far as the act according to other regulations is not threatened with a heavier punishment, with prison under one month or with fine from 150 to 15000 realm Marks one does not punish.


16 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:02 AM PDT by mnehring
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That great liberal hero FDR did the same thing to Americans of Japanese ancestry during World War II.
17 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:25 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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I don’t see a large problem with this as long as it applies to non-citizens. All full Constitutional rights MUST apply to citizens, without exception, but I think exactly which apply to non-citizens can be a matter of statute.


18 posted on 05/21/2009 8:12:35 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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So, Preventative detention is OK but a Preemptive War is Not?
20 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:33 AM PDT by Never on my watch (We need people in office who have made their reputation by earning money, not spending it.)
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terrorism suspects = white Christians


23 posted on 05/21/2009 8:15:17 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (The great object is that every man be armed. - Patrick Henry)
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Human rights activists for abortion....now there’s an oxy moron.


24 posted on 05/21/2009 8:15:31 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: markomalley

The President has already been shredding the Constitution.

Why stop now?


25 posted on 05/21/2009 8:16:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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28 posted on 05/21/2009 8:16:30 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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How many “much anticipated” press conferences can this guy have in a week???


30 posted on 05/21/2009 8:17:14 AM PDT by greatplains
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Re: President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

Nicht vor sage... Photobucket ich diese gleiche Sache nicht siebzig Jahren.

36 posted on 05/21/2009 8:19:10 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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