Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan (Flush the Constitution!)

NY Slimes (Page A18!!!) ^ | 5/21/2009 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

[markomalley]

WASHINGTON — President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.

The discussion, in a 90-minute meeting in the Cabinet Room that included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and other top administration officials, came on the eve of a much-anticipated speech Mr. Obama is to give Thursday on a number of thorny national security matters, including his promise to close the detention center at the naval base in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Human rights advocates are growing deeply uneasy with Mr. Obama’s stance on these issues, especially his recent move to block the release of photographs showing abuse of detainees, and his announcement that he is willing to try terrorism suspects in military commissions — a concept he criticized bitterly as a presidential candidate.

[Lady Jag]

Keep reading. You've a lot to catch up with.

This is just one of many articles on the subject.

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[chicagolady]

Bring some munchies, will ya? Don’t come empty handed!!

[The Anti-One]

Starting with Bill Ayers?

Hardly.

Read ▬ MIAC Strategic Report

Sorry it is PDF format. The administration has been systematically having it pulled off the internet.

[rfp1234]

Who through infringement under para 1 is a common threat to human life brings, with imprisonment, in mitigating circumstances with imprisonment not less than six months and if the infringement of a human death caused by the death, in mitigating circumstances with imprisonment not less than two years. In addition to asset recovery can be detected.

Who gemeingefährlichen to a breach (para. 2) incites or calls, with imprisonment, in mitigating circumstances with imprisonment not less than three months punished.

[gdani]

If this is used against U.S. citizens then it is un-Constitutional...

Not according to the U.S. Supreme Court. They've never overturned their decision in Korematsu, which allowed WWII internment of U.S. citizens with Japanese (and some with Italian & German) ancestry.

[tumblindice]

“There is nothing un-Constitutional about this as it pertains to foreign illegal enemy combatants ... “

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/14th+Amendment

“nor shall any State deprive ***any person*** of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Let’s get with the program/agenda, If, unless you want to wind up in a cattle car.

The problem is—according to the living, breathing, empathetic Constitution—conservatives (like unborn children) are not `persons’, while foreign (illegal) enemy combatants (much like “undocumented immigrants” and their offspring are victims of racist American nativists) are not only persons, and entitled to `3 hots and a cot’, medical care, jobs and 600 thread count sheets, but adherents to the Religion of Peace and innocent victims of torture perpetrated by the diabolical Bush administration.

[Right Wing Assault]

Oh, goody! Let’s arrest obama now since a lot of us feel he will destroy the US, so we need to prevent that.

[ExTexasRedhead]

PING and pass this around. Very sinister and very sick and very not cool.

[cbkaty]

Starting with anyone who posts on FREEREPUBLIC!!

Keep in mind the feds can subpoena FR records just about anytime they see fit.....

[TheBigIf]

By your interpretation of the Constitution war itself would then be illegal. That is absurd.

[TheBigIf]

These same stories were around when Bush was president.

[TheBigIf]

Good point. I still stand by my own interpretation though. We all know that the Supreme Court is a joke when coming to interpretatin the Constitution.

[ScottinVA]

“terrorism suspects = white Christians”

Let ‘em try. There’s a damn valid reason the gun stores are having such a banner year.

[TheBigIf]

So I’ll it say again…

It is perfectly legal under the Constitution to hold foreign illegal enemy combatants that are captured by our military waging war against the United States.

[cbkaty]

If this is used against U.S. citizens then it is un-Constitutional if it is used against non-U.S. citizens then it is not.

hmmm...let's see...President fires GM CEO, bank CEOs, Investment firms CEOs.....Transfers ownership to Unions and forces bond holders to accept pennies on the dollar.

That's not within the powers of the president as set forth in the Constitution.....but he did it anyway....

[08bil98z24]

Think convicted sex offenders deemed too dangerous to be released AFTER their sentences are done. The precedent is established.

That does not happen. Sex offenders (especially pedophiles) are the first to get out of legal trouble or the first to be let off with minimum sentence, the first to be released from prison, and sex offenders are the first in line to continue their crime spree after release.

Drug offenders are the ones that are deemed un-releasable and left in the prisons to rot, it happens all the time. People who are only a harm to themselves are punished more severely than people who are a danger to others.

[TheBigIf]

I am not trying to defend Obama. I agree with you on those issues but just not on this one.

[BlueStateBlues]

Put me in a cell with Coulter, or Monica Crowley. Then leave us alone, solitary like.

[unkus]

Americans have freed people from camps all over the world.

Who will free the Americans from the camps?

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

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