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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: Bender2

He’s stalling to keep Cheney from speaking live.

BRING ON CHENEY!!!


321 posted on 05/21/2009 8:09:40 AM PDT by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: NordP
AND Bambi isn't too smart to give this speech BEFORE Rush goes to air...GO RUSH GO!!

sw

322 posted on 05/21/2009 8:09:46 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: rhombus

Supermax prisons’ no-escape record doesn’t answer concerns about moving Gitmo terrorists onto U.S. soil

http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2009/05/supermax-prisons-noescape-record-doesnt-answer-concerns-about-moving-gitmo-terrorists-onto-us-soil.html


323 posted on 05/21/2009 8:09:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Appeal to Heaven.)
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To: ken5050

I’ll have to read the text, but from the snippets here....Jeez louise, Barry oughta be Baker Act’ed.


324 posted on 05/21/2009 8:09:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Carley
TOTUS is out of control today.


325 posted on 05/21/2009 8:09:58 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: jcb2009

Thanks for the heads up about the AEI video.

Maybe Cheney should begin talking now.

Obama had his chance.


326 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:00 AM PDT by syriacus (Obama's MIDDLE GROUND on abortion is a "FREE FIRE ZONE." What's his middle ground on racism?)
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To: libbylu

Is Dick waiting for him to get through?

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I hope so, but I wonder if he will defer to his audience and start on his scheduled time as a courtesy - something that leftists never consider.


327 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:04 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: ShandaLear

I thought so too. He’s sure talked a lot and said nothing.


328 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:04 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (GOP: Stop listening, start doing -- we need new leaders!)
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To: Porterville

GET OUT OF CHENEY’S WAY!


329 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:05 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: cbkaty

I wonder if he gave the Congressional leadership a heads up on this speech..he’s spitting in Reid’s eye, f’sure


330 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:09 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Ping for later to hear comments on Cheney’s speech.
Looking forward to The Great One’s comments on his podcast tomorrow.


331 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:10 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: AliVeritas

“He meant sharia law.”

I’d laugh, but it’s too close to the truth.

Mr. Teleprompter must have cut off those words for sake of expediency.


332 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:18 AM PDT by Sparko
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To: CheneyChick

Obama is telling more lies. If we are hit again, then let’s compare what he says now compared to what he says then.


333 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: paulycy; kristinn; All

The scene before Cheney’s speech
Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:23 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Republicans, Security

From NBC’s Amna Nawaz

About a dozen cameras and a packed room await Cheney’s speech. A big screen has been set up in the small room, where the Obama speech will be piped into the Cheney audience.

Cheney’s speech will immediately follow Obama’s.

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*snip*

*** Previewing Cheney’s speech:

Meanwhile, Politico’s Mike Allen gets a heads-up of what Cheney will say.

The gist: “When President Obama makes wise decisions, he deserves our support. And when he mischaracterizes the national security decisions we made in the Bush years, he deserves an answer. The point is not to look backward. But a truthful telling of history is necessary to inform our choices going forward.”

Allen also notes that Cheney will defend the effectiveness of Gitmo and enhanced interrogation techniques. Finally, Cheney will “say the American people deserve to see the whole picture as they assess the policies of the past — not just half the story.” We’ve also gotten a heads-up on what the former VP will say.

It’s our understanding that among the praise Cheney will dish out will be the administration’s decision to rescind releasing those military prison abuse photos. For his part, Cheney believes his role is helping keep the Obama administration from capitulating to the left on these national security issues, which he believes is its natural instinct.

Cheney also will continue to make the case that the prosecution of the war on terror should be kept out of the hands of law enforcement and should stay in the hands of the military.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

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Heard earlier that I believe it’s Lynn, not Liz Cheney, will be on with Chuck Todd on MSNBC after the speeches.


334 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:28 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: maggief

Does anyone know if Cheney’s speech is going to be streaming on the internet?


335 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:29 AM PDT by Bush Revolution ("Don't think we're not keeping score, brother."Prez O to Rep. DeFazio(D) for voting against stimulus)
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To: AliVeritas

That won’t keep it from being used again and again as a talking point. Wait and see.


336 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:52 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Williams

“This is the most defensive speech I have ever seen given by a president.”

Stunning, isn’t it.


337 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:55 AM PDT by maggief
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To: LadyBuzz

I have had a crush on Cheney forever.
^5


338 posted on 05/21/2009 8:11:03 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal in Sarah)
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To: khnyny

Son is homeschooled. We are currently reading Animal Farm. Its great to re read it in the current situation. I have pointed out so many things to him, and it is way better reading it now than when I originally did (during Reagan).

You can really rename the characters in the book today pretty preceisely. My son is pretty enthralled with it. I bet it will no longer be required reading in the future.


339 posted on 05/21/2009 8:11:06 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: maggief
wanna talk about me, wanna talk about I, wanna talk about number one oh me my mine...

media-poor Obama nothing is his fault, his plate is so full, what a great speech, he wants to focus on the future but ya know it's all Bush's fault, inherited.

340 posted on 05/21/2009 8:11:09 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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