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Notre Dame honors Obama, dishonors all that is good - PROTEST LIVE THREAD, May 17, 2009
AIPNEWS.com ^ | May 17, 2009 | AIP Chairman Tom Hoefling, aka EternalVigilance

Posted on 05/17/2009 6:34:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

May 17, 2009

Please post all information about today's protests here.

My phone is already ringing steadily.

Our AIP folks on the ground at the Notre Dame gates report that the CBR plane is in the air.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: catholic; life; moralabsolutes; notredame; obama; prolife; protest
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To: CheneyChick
A lot of them have. Zero probably promised the school a bailout.
881 posted on 05/17/2009 1:02:13 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: EternalVigilance; cpforlife.org; narses; Desdemona; livius
Obama invoked both crackpot modernists, Hesburgh and Bernardin for his version of "seamless garment" liberation theology, minus the sanctity of life.

It was the usual appeal to moral relativism as the supposed higher ground. Then there was the very unfortune slur, the president's reference to "parochial" views. This is ALWAYS code for an anti-Catholic dig. Suggesting "parochial" views are in conflict with a higher ground of "universal" moral relativism.

Jenkins' hysterial speech praising Obama was disgraceful. One of the most disgraceful and shameful moments in Catholic intellectual history and the postconciliar period. It's clear Jenkins' is an hysterical supporter of Obama and shameless liberal. This was absurd from the Stockholm Syndrome valedictorian to the hysterical cheering for Obama.

One moment of great irony: As Obama started his spin on relativism for abortion you could hear a baby crying in the audience on the Fox News feed.

882 posted on 05/17/2009 1:02:50 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Rebelbase

“I paid $120,000 for my kid to graduate and have to listen to this guy? talk about no respect!”

LOL, I was saying that same thing 2 yrs ago when I had to endure Bill Clinton speak at my daughter’s graduation! The crowd treated him with sickening adulation too.


883 posted on 05/17/2009 1:02:59 PM PDT by Signolife
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To: Texas Eagle
No, the entire chapter. For example, verses 28-30:

So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: Because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

884 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:11 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: gidget7
Zero probably promised the school a bailout.

If anything, he's going to take ND's money. They have a $3 billion endowment.

885 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:28 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Petronski

;)

I’m an Episcopalian, so in a sense I have no business taking a stand on this issue, but I will tell you my heart ached for the Catholic Church today and my prayers are with all those who felt betrayed today.


886 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bperiwinkle7
I think the Students were afraid they would lose their diplomas if they acted in protest....why else would they act like mesmerized obots?

Because they are, it's foolish topretend otherwise. The sheen hasn't worn off Obama yet. Some day it may.

These students voted for Obama in the same numbers as students of other religions and no religion. I'm convinced that Father Jenkins voted for him as well.

In the world we currently live in holding KSM's head underwater for 20 seconds to save thousands of innocent lives is a grave evil while tearing unborn babies limb from limb by the millions is a sacrament.

Maybe that will change but maybe not. I don't pretend to know.

887 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: SE Mom
The best part of the speech was when Obama began to talk about abortion and a baby in the audience began to cry.

It was a loud and very distinctive cry.

I suspect it made more than one person weep.

I know I did.

888 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:33 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Texas Eagle

You’re really just displaying your own ignorance in the doctrine of the Catholic Church.


889 posted on 05/17/2009 1:03:53 PM PDT by chase19
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To: bperiwinkle7
I think the Students were afraid they would lose their diplomas if they acted in protest....why else would they act like mesmerized obots?

Is that what they're taught at Notre Dame, that Christ died on the cross so that they might get their little diplomas if they embrace a Barack 'Tiller' Obama baby killer. That place has obviously lost its SALT and needs a purging.

890 posted on 05/17/2009 1:04:07 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth

many of us have talked about this. it would be hard for a african american to not vote for the first african american president. I was ready myself for the first female or african american president. I knew we had to have a democratic president next because too much damage had been done to Bush. People were tired of republicans. Then knowing my party would lose I started looking at who obama was. At that point I never dreamed such a radical would ever win.

Too bad obama is not african american. African Americans will wake up with a arab president more than likely as time goes by and truth comes out. I would say arab american but we really do not know what nationality his mother is either. They have been duped big time.


891 posted on 05/17/2009 1:04:08 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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Placemarker


892 posted on 05/17/2009 1:04:13 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: mware

WOW...that’s pretty amazing.

God bless the babe.


893 posted on 05/17/2009 1:05:07 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Dionysius

Apr 14, 2009 ... In an Ideas piece, Kmiec says some Catholics have bad attitudes about Obama’s Notre Dame invite.

May 6, 2009 ... In an Ideas piece, Kmiec says Specter deserves praise for his willingness to find workable solutions.

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March 23, 2008 9:18 AM | By Doug Kmiec

Today I endorse Barack Obama for president of the United States. I believe him to be a person of integrity, intelligence, and genuine good will. I take him at his word that he wants to move the nation beyond its religious and racial divides and that he wants to return the United States to that company of nations committed to human rights. I do not know if his earlier life experience is sufficient for the challenges of the presidency that lie ahead. I doubt we know this about any of the men or women we might select. It likely depends upon the serendipity of the events that cannot be foreseen. I do have confidence that the senator will cast his net widely in search of men and women of diverse, open-minded views and of superior intellectual qualities to assist him in the wide range of responsibilities that he must superintend.

http://tinyurl.com/pod2x8

This endorsement may be of little note or consequence, except perhaps that it comes from an unlikely source: namely, a former constitutional legal counsel to two Republican presidents. The endorsement will likely supply no strategic advantage equivalent to that represented by the very helpful accolades the senator has received from many of high stature and accomplishment, including most recently, from Gov. Bill Richardson. Nevertheless, it is important to be said publicly in a public forum in order that it be understood. It is not arrived at without careful thought and some difficulty.

In various ways, Sen. Barack Obama and I may disagree on aspects of these important fundamentals, but I am convinced, based upon his public pronouncements and his personal writing, that on each of these questions he is not closed to understanding opposing points of view and, as best as it is humanly possible, he will respect and accommodate them.

No doubt some of my friends will see this as a matter of party or intellectual treachery. I regret that, and I respect their disagreement. But they will readily agree that as Republicans, we are first Americans. As Americans, we must voice our concerns for the well-being of our nation without partisanship when decisions that have been made endanger the body politic. Our president has involved our nation in a military engagement without sufficient justification or a clear objective. In so doing, he has incurred both tragic loss of life and extraordinary debt jeopardizing the economy and the well-being of the average American citizen. In pursuit of these fatally flawed purposes, the office of the presidency, which it was once my privilege to defend in public office formally, has been distorted beyond its constitutional assignment. Today, I do no more than raise the defense of that important office anew, but as private citizen.


894 posted on 05/17/2009 1:05:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Petronski

No, he essentially showed that the bishops are powerless. The Vatican II doofuses out there cheering him were the populist group he was appealing to (instead of the unions and blacks and his usual lefty groups). He has taken the Church away from the bishops because he gave this talk in blatant opposition to a ruling issued by the USCCB several years ago and in opposition to the immediate statements of the local ordinary of the diocese, Bp D’Arcy, and the Church authorities LET ND GO THROUGH WITH IT.

So tell me how that doesn’t mean he’s in charge now?


895 posted on 05/17/2009 1:05:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: SE Mom
How bad was it?

Far beyond your worst imaginings.

896 posted on 05/17/2009 1:05:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Big tyrants unleash a million petty tyrants.)
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To: OafOfOffice
I didn’t get to hear Michael Steele. He needs to go too. I had high hopes for him but it seems he wants obama in office for a very long and is against the GOP ideals.

Steel on MTP this morning said Colin Powell AND Rush Limbaugh both should be in the big tent Republican Party, and each would have his supporters rally around different "tent poles." Can't quite figure that one out -- but, yes he needs to go if he tries to bring everyone together irrespective of their differing views on fundamental issues. (I sure miss Haley Barbour as chairman).

897 posted on 05/17/2009 1:06:17 PM PDT by CedarDave (Not new news: Obama has Pork Flu)
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To: Dionysius

Douglas W. Kmiec is chair and professor of constitutional law at Pepperdine University. He is a former constitutional legal counsel to Presidents Reagan and George H. W. Bush.


898 posted on 05/17/2009 1:06:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Petronski
The more than a billion Catholics you falsely accused of worshiping Mary? Why would I capitalize that?

Oh, you WERE referring to the billion Catholics as "them".

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and presumed you were talking about The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as "them".

As I said before, I don't give a flying fig about bearing false witness against a billion Catholics. I worry about bearing false witness against God, The Father, God, The Son, and God, The Holy Spirit.

You don't think the Ninth Commandment pertains to Catholics do you? They, (you), weren't even around then.

899 posted on 05/17/2009 1:06:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

“Obama invoked both crackpot modernists, Hesburgh and Bernardin for his version of “seamless garment” liberation theology, minus the sanctity of life.

It was the usual appeal to moral relativism as the supposed higher ground. Then there was the very unfortune slur, the president’s reference to “parochial” views. This is ALWAYS code for an anti-Catholic dig. Suggesting “parochial” views are in conflict with a higher ground of “universal” moral relativism.

Jenkins’ hysterial speech praising Obama was disgraceful. One of the most disgraceful and shameful moments in Catholic intellectual history and the postconciliar period. It’s clear Jenkins’ is an hysterical supporter of Obama and shameless liberal. This was absurd from the Stockholm Syndrome valedictorian to the hysterical cheering for Obama.

One moment of great irony: As Obama started his spin on relativism for abortion you could hear a baby crying in the audience on the Fox News feed.”

Very well said.


900 posted on 05/17/2009 1:07:08 PM PDT by chase19
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