'The CIA is America's scapegoat'; Former officer: Pelosi 'should be thrown out of her job'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 5/16/09

[JohnHuang2]

Members of the CIA are most likely "seething and outraged" by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claims the CIA misled her about its use of coersive interrogation methods, according to former CIA officer Larry Johnson.

"She was informed, the Congress was informed," said Johnson.

"This is not the first time Congress has developed a version of Alzheimer's disease in failing to remember what it was told about certain covert operations throughout history."

He spoke with Greg Corombos of Radio America/WND.

[JohnHuang2]

It's looking increasingly likely that we're going to need a Truth Commission to get the truth out of runaway bride look-alike Nancy Pelosi.

First she denied being briefed about how rough Dick Cheney was treating Abu Zubaydah. Then she admitted being briefed but that the rough treatment was still in the planning stage at the time of the briefing which she forgot about. She insisted she was never told the techniques had been used. Then she admitted being told, but that it was a staffer who told her, not CIA briefers. She denied being 'complicit' in secrecy. Then she said the secrecy of the evil torture program kept her from speaking out. Her latest explanation is that the CIA lied to only one member of Congress -- her.

A hint that the San Francisco twit has *stepped in it* big time is the fact that the press is covering it. Even the New York Times notices a problem with Pelosi's several hundred conflicting explanations. Pelosi Defends Her Position on Interrogation Briefings, one headline read. Only on rare occasions does the word "defends" appear in the same headline as a Democrat. Usually, it's Democratic so-and-so stands firmly behind position despite vicious, despicable, right-wing smear . . . or similar fair and balanced headlines.

The media even reported the CIA Director's message to his employees contradicting Pelosi. Pelosi says her discredited explanations are true because the CIA lied to her. Director Leon Panetta wrote in his message that "it is not our practice to mislead Congress," not even Pelosi, who is easy. "As the Agency indicated previously," CIA officers had "briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah," including "the enhanced techniques that had been employed" by the Agency, Panetta vigorously noted -- marking the first time a Democrat said something vigorously nice about the Agency.

"No, no, no . . . it doesn't make me complicit, no," complained Nancy at her bizarre presser Thursday, as she rifled through her notes on when she forgot this and remembered that.

Pelosi is so stupid she didn't realize (until late in the game) that once you start slapping the "torture" label on EITs (Enhanced Interrogation Techniques) while admitting you kept quiet, the charge of complicity follows. Having neatly painted herself into the torture corner, she now has to engage in some enhancing of her own, claiming the CIA briefing (that she forgot about but now suddenly recalls vividly) lied to her. She denies knowing about the "torture", despite her torturing us for years with her face.

All of this was to bag the Bush lawyers on a torture rap, but Nancy's hoisted herself on her own petard instead. It's a dumb idea to pick a fight with the CIA and accuse it of lying, so Pelosi did so. Warning: This is your brain on botox.

Most of the pundits are wondering, Was Pelosi lying then or is she lying now? What I want to know is how a moron became House Speaker? Then again, there's B. Hussein.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"

[JohnHuang2]

Saturday-morning-ping!

[Dallas59]

Pelosi better watch it....she might get a view of a bus....from the underside.

[Bullish]

You know there’s really only one sensible solution to all of this.

Dick Cheney should waterboard Pelosi.

[devane617]

Calgon

[nathanbedford]

Many of us were appalled that the CIA leaked against the Bush administration in a disloyal attempt to alter our policy in Iraq, we believed that there was a fifth column operating within the CIA. It was clear that the whole of the CIA was not involved but there was a significant minority with direct contacts to the New York Times and the Washington Post which had confidence in these news outlets that the CIA leakers would not be exposed.

Now we see elements within the CIA going to war against Nancy Pelosi. Again, we ought not to presume that the whole of the CIA is involved. That portion of the CIA which collaborated with The New York Times against the Bush administration might again leak in favor of Pelosi. In that case we would see a battle erupting within the CIA between two factions.

To further complicate this affair, it is very likely that there is a subterranean war going on between Steny Hoyer, Majority Leader of the house who seeks Pelosi's job and who is her enemy, against the Speaker of the House. It is probable that President Obama is siding with Steny Hoyer against Pelosi.

If this is the case, one would expect to see elements of the CIA lining up with Obama and Hoyer while other elements line up with Pelosi and still other elements supporting the Republican opposition. Under these circumstances the CIA could begin leaking like a sieve.

While this internecine warfare is being waged, it is hard to have confidence that the CIA will be diligently performing its duty to keep us safe. This is a consequence of permitting this agency to play politics over the Iraq war without any penalty being imposed either on the New York Times or on the guilty parties if they could be found. They could hardly have been found without a diligent search.

This is Bush's fault. Indeed, Bush played into the hands of these people with his handling of the Valery Plame affair when he acquiesced in the general proposition that her outing was wrong. He should never have permitted the matter to go to Fitzgerald. He should have pardoned Scooter Libby immediately on conviction or even before. bush should never have given the Medal of Freedom to the director of the CIA, George Tenet, who gave him the worst intelligence advice imaginable over Iraq when he raised his right hand and, referring to the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, said, "Mr. President it is a slam dunk." Bush's management of the CIA from beginning (the retention of George tenet) to end (the appointment of Porter Goss) has been a history of unrelieved disaster.

Of course it goes without saying that the Democrats are far more guilty than the Bush administration for this state of affairs because it is they who played politics with national security. The fault of the Bush administration was a failure of will, a sin of omission rather than co-mission, a fastidiousness which moved Bush to keep politics away from national security.

The Democrats, in contrast, have behaved despicably in every turn of these affairs beginning with Valery Plame and continuing right through today's pathetic performance by Speaker Pelosi.

Candidate Obama pandered to the lunatic base of his own party and traded away national security to do it. Obama objected to rendition and now has reversed himself. Obama objected to eavesdropping and is now indulging in it. He threatened to close Guantánamo and now is stalling. He released the memos for a political advantage in the teeth of pleas of his own CIA Director which compromised our position around the world, facilitated recruitment by our enemies, and cost us propaganda miseries. He has flip-flopped on the issue of prosecuting Bush administration officials, thus demoralizing career officials within the United States government and in the CIA. He has threatened to release photos of interrogations and then reversed himself on that issue as well. Obama's record as a despicable one of playing politics with our national security. One might add that he has done so ineptly except that the media covers for him as usual and he is wonderfully immune from his own ineptitude. But media cover cannot undo the harm done to our national security.

As I have posted before, the significance of this story is the fact that the culture of the Democrat party now compels Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America to lie to avoid admitting that she did not interfere with interrogations that saved American lives.

It betrays the Democrat party for the extreme leftist, anti-American gang it has become.

This affair is but one more example of the shameful willingness of Democrats to compromise national security for political advantage. It is very possible that this fiasco will bring down the Speaker of the House, ostensibly for lying but really for not anticipating the mood swings of her leftist base. If the Democrats are foolish enough to move this matter into hearings or some sort of "Truth Commission," the Republicans' line ought to be that the real story is the Democrats shopping our national security for partisan advantage since Valery Plame. If such hearings are conducted, who knows, maybe the role of George Soros and all of this will actually come out. Certainly the speaker is vulnerable if she must testify under oath in view of the series of contradictions she is made on the record. It may be a question of who comes to the conclusion first, the speaker or her party, that she must get out of the way before she is put under oath.

As Bull Halsey says in my tagline, "attack, repeat, attack."

[jws3sticks]

Great Posting Sir John!

[Caipirabob]

Her latest explanation is that the CIA lied to only one member of Congress -- her.

Yet again protecting our nation against a major security threat?

But no, they did exactly what they were supposed to do.

Pelosi has damaged this nation enough. She needs to be persuaded to step down immediately.

I'd let the CIA handle it, personally, but they are too busy doing their jobs protecting this nation.

[Caipirabob]

Reading your commentaries in the early AM is as enjoyable as eating a big hunk of pie for breakfast. Cheers and thanks for the post.

[PhilDragoo]

Witless for the Prosecution.

Was she lying then, is she lying now, or is she not a chronic and habitual liar.

Playing politics with national security? I did; I didn't. They did; they didn't. Were they doing enough--of what they said was legal--but they mislead me on that, too.

And neither the vile Pelosi nor the poseur Hussein nor the valiant DCI Panetta COSCO-Long Beach III will reveal that these enhanced techniques saved Los Angeles--

--and can we have a do-over on that--can we release KSM on condition he be resettled with full benefits in San Francisco.

To provide for the common defense--this is stated first in our founding documents--

--and stacks last under the infestation of Islamo-friendly Commie apparatchiks--

--able on any given day to confiscate a car company, a bank, seventeen percent of the GDP, double the debt, quadruple the defecit--

--but defend?

No, we slander the defenders--

[csense]

This is all gearing up for the Sunday, morning news talking heads. Expect her to get pounded today. By the time they're done with her on Sunday, she'll be lucky to have any dignity left to show her face at the press conference on Monday announcing her resignation. This is the end of the road for her, right now, as you're watching it. This is the take out.

If she's smart, she'll tender her resignation sometime Sunday before the news cycle starts Monday morning.

[Allegra]

Former officer: Pelosi 'should be thrown out of her job'

Little would please me more.

[MagnoliaB]

“runaway bride look-alike Nancy Pelosi.”

ROFL!!! That was a coffee spitter!

[Free Vulcan]

I’d like her to be where she can do the most damage to her party. We might get just as much mileage if we leave her in there smoldering and fuming.

[Carley]

She was only following the One’s lead in her disdain for the CIA.

[VA40]

It's uncanny!

[2ndDivisionVet]

Related thread:

Krauthammer: Pelosi Is Now At War With The CIA; I Suspect They Will Destroy Her (w/Video)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2251276/posts

[EBH]

I really don't think she has the sense to resign. And the democrats don't have the sense to force her to step down.

It is all talk and nothing will happen. It is a distraction of the kind in which Pelosi is playing the useful idiot.

Check what the other hand is doing right now...

WE need to stop playing into their propaganda news cycle. WE know these hearings are nothing but literal show trials. The administration has reversed on several policies already(torture pictures, tribunals).

Torture hearings my backside, what is the other hand doing?

What happened during the pirate crisis? 0bama signed onto the G20 deal controlling executive pay.

What happened during the swine flu crisis? He fired CEO's and cut advertising budgets.

What happened during the torture show trials?

The first 100 days they shoved through the skeleton of the their agenda. Why? Because they could. The American public would 'wait and see.' Those precious 100 days are gone.

Now, they need the distractions to implement. Stay on focus here folks. We know these are faux hearings. So we need to push them to the side, pull the curtain back and catch them pushing something else through behind our backs.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Members of the CIA are most likely "seething and outraged" by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claims the CIA misled her about its use of coersive interrogation

Please, spare me the melodrama. More like bemused and chuckling. They love their undeserved reputation as the devious masterminds playing the great game behind the scenes. Pelosi makes them feel important. Has anyone ever accused anyone at the Department of Agriculture of acting deviously or cunningly or amorally? Has an air traffic control supervisor ever been nontrivially accused being power mad or taking initiative outside his authority?

An outraged letter from Panetta? A man who is all but an outsider to the CIA? Kabuki. I ain't buyin' none of it.

[csense]

I really don't think she has the sense to resign. And the democrats don't have the sense to force her to step down. It is all talk and nothing will happen. It is a distraction of the kind in which Pelosi is playing the useful idiot.

He doesn't need a distraction...he has the votes to do anything he wants, and when you have the media in your back pocket, it makes your claim even more absurd.

What you have here is exactly what it looks like. An extreme liberal kook, who took that step over the line, and was too dumb and arrogant to pull herself back in. Now the Democrats have a real serious problem on their hands and it's escalating rapidly. If the Democrats let this go another news cycle, it could escalate to a point where they won't be able to control or contain it, and don't kid yourself into thinking the Democratic Leadership doesn't understand that.

The dogs of war have been set loose, the window of opportunity has been closed. Now it's the Democrat's move, and the smart move is to reign her in as quick as possible, and let the dogs be called back....but if their stupid....