Posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Creationists don’t believe in dinosaurs.
As do I, dearest sister in Christ! May God ever bless them with His Light and Grace.
To God be the glory!
Thank you ever so much for this beautiful essay/post!
Brilliant, simply brilliant, BB! I esp. appreciate your conclusion. Christians can disagree about the particulars, but a Christian cannot shut God out of His own creation without doing violence to both scripture and logic!
Does that meet your definition or not?
So if this your model, how were NASA scientists able to land probes on Venus and Mars, and send orbital probes to Jupter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune if they were using a model that was completely incorrect?
Don't you think they would have noticed the sun's orbit flailing into the orbits of the gas giants? Wouldn't they have had to take this massive difference in gravitation and direction into account to have their trajectories be correct?
Very well said, GGG!
So, why did you say there wasn't one when there obviously was? Can we assume that you put so little thought into all your statements?
"So if this your model, how were NASA scientists able to land probes on Venus and Mars, and send orbital probes to Jupter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune if they were using a model that was completely incorrect?"
You didn't read the site, did you? Does the name Ernst Mach mean anything to you? Can we assume that you put so little thought into all your questions?
"Don't you think they would have noticed the sun's orbit flailing into the orbits of the gas giants? Wouldn't they have had to take this massive difference in gravitation and direction into account to have their trajectories be correct?"
You didn't take the time to read either site or study the model, did you? Do the statements of Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis mean anything to you? Can we assume that you put so little thought into all your questions?
Can you not answer these extremely simple questions without sending me to read a pseudoscience site? How can you launch a probe to Jupiter without taking the sun's gravity into account? How?
Also, I'm sure you read the final report on the Gravity Probe B that said that frame dragging is plainly visible in the processed data. All those wasted posts from you that tried to use NASA work to back up your 15th century theory. Shameful.
Where do you stand in this matter allmendream? How do you, as a Christian, reconcile such mutually exclusive tendencies in your own life and thought?
That’s what it boils down to in a nutshell. As far as anyone can tell, it pretty much entails picking and choosing what parts of the Christian Bible that appeal to his sensibilities and he freely rejects the rest.
Then, when others, quite naturally and logically point this out, he just attacks them and exclaims the strawman that they’re no more pious than he is, are liars...blah blah blah.
Then with a striaght face other evolutionists will chime in that science and religion are somehow compatable!
Of course it’s possible to compartmentalize parts of your life separate from the other partts I guess.
There must be a term, scientifically and otherwise for this possibility! :)
Thats all you really ever do.
Yup, pretty much! And then whines when it's pointed out. :)
Then prove yourself to be all sciencey by passing the P.E.
Should be a real snap for someone as sciencey as you ;o)
Liberals always try desperately to poison the well, it's nothing new...and clearly doesn't work...and btw...the "fringies" are pretty clearly on your side of the aisle!
Do you two closet liberals need to see the evidence...for like the 25th time?
Do you believe in the Ptolemaic or the Tycho model?
The chuckle part is that he called that statement an adhominem attack!
They say they are Christian as well, but maybe they only pass muster as Christians to you if they accept your bizarre and unsupportable cosmological model.
My doctrine does not exclude the realm of the Spirit as I have full faith that I shall join my Lord and Savior in the realm of Spirit upon my physical demise.
My profession (science) does exclude the realm of the Spirit, as it is not replicably observable, predictable or measurable.
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT seen.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Typical liberal's question!
Feelings don't matter. The ptolemaic model is what continues to be used today in all navigation, astronomic positioning, and even the programs that operate the positioning servos on all modern observatories. And it even works :o)
What ill thought out and ignorant twaddle.
The Heavens proclaim the glory of God.
Gathering knowledge is certainly a peril for someones belief in Creationism, as the more someone knows, especially about science, the less likely they are to be a Creationist.
Thus Creationism is the refuge of the ill and under educated; no wonder you think knowledge is so dangerous.
To God be the Glory.
What a novel concept; do you think it'll ever catch on? ;o)
Yes, for the last eleven years, that is what all of us here at FR have come to expect from BB (NOT!)
Look in the mirror AMD, cuz that is where your comment should have been directed.
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