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To: betty boop
You actually think scientific discovery imperils the soul?

What ill thought out and ignorant twaddle.

The Heavens proclaim the glory of God.

Gathering knowledge is certainly a peril for someones belief in Creationism, as the more someone knows, especially about science, the less likely they are to be a Creationist.

Thus Creationism is the refuge of the ill and under educated; no wonder you think knowledge is so dangerous.

To God be the Glory.

238 posted on 05/14/2009 12:34:40 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream; betty boop; hosepipe; Alamo-Girl
"What ill thought out and ignorant twaddle."

Yes, for the last eleven years, that is what all of us here at FR have come to expect from BB (NOT!)

Look in the mirror AMD, cuz that is where your comment should have been directed.

240 posted on 05/14/2009 12:43:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: allmendream; Alamo-Girl; GodGunsGuts; tpanther; hosepipe; metmom; TXnMA; MHGinTN; xzins; ...
You actually think scientific discovery imperils the soul?
No I do not think that at all. Reason is a gift of God. He gave it to us in order to appreciate and understand the splendor of what He has wrought, which at its foundation is an intelligible order, and thus amenable to discovery by means of the operations of reason.

What ill thought out and ignorant twaddle.
You said it — in the act of attributing to me something which is NOT my opinion, but the very reverse of my opinion.

The Heavens proclaim the glory of God.
Yes; and so does the Creation.

Gathering knowledge is certainly a peril for someones belief in Creationism, as the more someone knows, especially about science, the less likely they are to be a Creationist.
I can't endorse that observation. In my experience, the reverse has been true. That is, the more I know about science and mathematics, the more I'm convinced that God is the creator and sustainer of the universe. For example, I find the big bang/inflationary model corresponds exceptionally well with the biblical cosmology.

There is a great tradition within Christianity often associated with Anselm of Cantebury, referred to as fides quaerens intellectum, faith seeking understanding of itself, or searching for its reasons. Among other things, this search points us to the operations of nature and the universe at large. I believe that both Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI were/are firmly within this tradition.

Thus Creationism is the refuge of the ill and under educated; no wonder you think knowledge is so dangerous.
Sure. It's a refuge for undereducated, dimwitted, superstitious people like Karol Wojtyla and Joseph Ratzinger, for instance....

Your comment immediately above — "...Creationism is the refuge...." — is pure, unadulterated Bulverism — the assumption that your opponent's thoughts are "tainted" in some way (e.g., by ignorance, malice, incompetence, wishful thinking, lack of credentials, inferior education, superstition, being duped by someone, etc., etc.), but your own thoughts are not. Unlike your opponent's thoughts, yours are are pure and true.

And once again, I do not think knowledge per se is dangerous. It is only what men do with the knowledge they have that can make knowledge dangerous, because disordered men are dangerous. The fault, if there be one, is not in knowledge; it is in man's use of knowledge, the purposes to which he puts it.

To God be the Glory.

Amen!

358 posted on 05/14/2009 4:52:07 PM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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To: allmendream; betty boop
Gathering knowledge is certainly a peril for someones belief in Creationism,

What a blinded view of things.

Knowledge is not a peril for someone's belief in creationism, but brainwashing is. Don't confuse the ideological brainwashing that happens at universities with education and knowledge of facts.

as the more someone knows, especially about science, the less likely they are to be a Creationist.

You mean like Newton, Pasteur, Faraday, Mendel.....

Thus Creationism is the refuge of the ill and under educated;

On what do you base that assessment on? What scientific study results demonstrate that?

That's a rather odd statement in light of the observation of these threads alone that very few evos seem to have degrees in science if they even admit to what their degree is in in the first place, while creationists generally are forthright about their educational background and generally seem to have more qualifications to discuss science than the evos.

And if you are skeptical, ask them yourself.

...no wonder you think knowledge is so dangerous.

bb thinks what knowledge is dangerous? Who knew? Or do you always try to make your point by lying about people? Have you no better way of winning people to the evo side than by grossly misrepresenting the creationist side by making false accusations of what they believe?

I know bb has made her position clear and it is not what you claim. Why are you lying about her?

360 posted on 05/14/2009 5:08:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: allmendream; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ What ill thought out and ignorant twaddle. ]

Duuugh.. You have no idea of who are twaddling with..

481 posted on 05/15/2009 10:23:10 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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