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Soda Tax Weighed to Pay for Health Care
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 11 | Janet Adamy

Posted on 05/12/2009 2:35:48 AM PDT by PghBaldy

Senate leaders are considering new federal taxes on soda and other sugary drinks to help pay for an overhaul of the nation's health-care system.

The taxes would pay for only a fraction of the cost to expand health-insurance coverage to all Americans and would face strong opposition from the beverage industry. They also could spark a backlash from consumers who would have to pay several cents more for a soft drink.

On Tuesday, the Senate Finance Committee is set to hear proposals from about a dozen experts about how to pay for the comprehensive health-care overhaul that President Barack Obama wants to enact this year. Early estimates put the cost of the plan at around $1.2 trillion. The administration has so far only earmarked funds for about half of that amount.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based watchdog group that pressures food companies to make healthier products, plans to propose a federal excise tax on soda, certain fruit drinks, energy drinks, sports drinks and ready-to-drink teas. It would not include most diet beverages. Excise taxes are levied on goods and manufacturers typically pass them on to consumers.

Senior staff members for some Democratic senators at the center of the effort to craft health-care legislation are weighing the idea behind closed doors, Senate aides said.

The Congressional Budget Office, which is providing lawmakers with cost estimates for each potential change in the health overhaul, included the option in a broad report on health-system financing in December. The office estimated that adding a tax of three cents per 12-ounce serving to these types of sweetened drinks would generate $24 billion over the next four years. So far, lawmakers have not indicated how big a tax they are considering.

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To: PghBaldy
What a nightmare for convenience stores... Most typically have a number of different drink sizes at their fountains. So they'd have to figure in a different tax for each size drink. And is this tax only going to be on "sugary drinks?" What about diet drinks. Or iced tea? Or juice, which often has as much sugar (or HFCS) as soda?

Would there be a "break point," or just $.03 for each 12oz? So would my 52oz iced tea (sweetened with Splenda, BTW) cost me an extra $.15? I typically get 2 of these a day, which is a pretty nice profit margin for Quik Trip. And I'll often pick up something else while I'm there as well. But knowing that I'm paying an extra tax on it will make me less likely to continue buying it there, instead brewing it myself, which will wind up hurting Quik Trip, as well as generating no dollars for the federal, state, or local governments. So, in effect, that tax will wind up costing EVERYONE (except me) money.

As long as there's "stuff," congress will always be able to figure out a new tax on that "stuff."

Mark

41 posted on 05/12/2009 3:51:39 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: PghBaldy

Good.

I’m sick of soda drinkers turning the office into a sticky mess with their little splashes and spills. And don’t get me started on “Coke Breath”. Sometimes I go home at night smelling like a bottling plant. It’s disgusting.

The women do those feminine little whisper burps, which are bad, but the men! Well they belch like the rest of us enjoy it as much as they do!

Then there’s the residue. Can pyramids are the worst. Running a close second are those styrofoam cups leaving sticky little rings on desks and conference tables that those soda drinkers can’t bother to wipe up when they leave.

I don’t drink sugared sodas, but I know many people who do. People I thought were fine, Christian, conservative people. Give the a Dr. Pepper, though, and they turn into filth purveyors.

Tax ‘em high!


42 posted on 05/12/2009 3:52:00 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: PghBaldy
So far Obama got me on the cig tax. I also drink regular Pepsi...

I quit smoking 9 months ago and I drink diet Coke. Raising tobacco taxes to their current levels is outrageous. Taxing sugared drinks is too.

43 posted on 05/12/2009 3:53:08 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (God's Riches At Christ's Expense.............Selah.)
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To: All

Everything was going great with the new tobacco tax until you weenies quit smoking !

Do your patriotic duty and light em up !! (it`s for the children )

Now Lord Obama has to find another new tax.

how about a huge tax on designer sneakers ?


44 posted on 05/12/2009 3:54:27 AM PDT by Einherjar (PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I bet he’s chicken to increase the tax on alcohol.

I doubt that but a tax on chicken wouldn't directly affect me because I don't eat the vile stuff.

45 posted on 05/12/2009 3:56:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (God's Riches At Christ's Expense.............Selah.)
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To: Nervous Tick
While there's currently no tax on TVs themselves in the US, so over the air broadcast TV is still free and untaxed, if you have cable, you're definitely being taxed: Just look at your cable bill.

But yes, the Brits actually have an annual TV tax on the device itself.

Mark

46 posted on 05/12/2009 3:56:26 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: mylife

the version I heard was

“in America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power...then.. you get the women...”


47 posted on 05/12/2009 3:59:03 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Pinkbell
I disagree completely with the Rats’ plan, but I understand why they would tax something considered unhealthy and high calorie. They figure unhealthy and/or high calorie foods/beverages add more weight which may lead to obesity and problems associated with that. That in turn means the government will have to pay more for health care.

They are attacking the wrong end of the problem, if gov didn't have their nose in health care to begin with, no new taxes would be needed.

48 posted on 05/12/2009 4:00:52 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (God's Riches At Christ's Expense.............Selah.)
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To: PghBaldy

Well, why stop at sodas? I mean, there’s a whole universe of products that are BAD FOR US......just ask the food police.

Let’s start with transfats, saturated fats, nutrasweet, red meat, white meat, meat, meat, meat, cheese, anything that tastes good, and BUTTER........how could I forget my beloved BUTTER?

These f-ing Communists have gone too far this time. Maybe the sheople will wake-up?


49 posted on 05/12/2009 4:02:10 AM PDT by DivaDelMar (CRAm member-- (Conservative Republicans Against mcCain) Think you're entitled to my vote? CRAm It!!!)
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To: DooDahhhh

Fast food will be the next target. They are going to have to cast a wide net to pay for this. Women, children, and minorities will be hit harder by this, not that Zero gives a rats patoot.


50 posted on 05/12/2009 4:02:16 AM PDT by RU88
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To: Smokin' Joe
Seriously, what Constitutional authority does the FedGov have to be doing the things they claim are the reason for levying these taxes, anyway?

Congress claims that the Interstate Commerce Clause of the Constitution gives them the right to regulate and tax any goods or services whether they cross state lines or not. Interestingly enough, the SCOTUS rules in favor of the government (big surprise) that Congress can also regulate and tax goods and services that do NOT cross state lines, since those goods and services not being offered for sale can influence the pricing and availability of similar goods and services offered elsewhere in the country.

So, the court ruled that the ICC allows congress to regulate (and tax) goods and services that do go across state lines, as well as those that don't.

Mark

51 posted on 05/12/2009 4:03:06 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Glenn
I’m sick of soda drinkers turning the office into a sticky mess with their little splashes and spills.

While your intentions are noble and patriotic, the country is not there yet. First we have to stop all that advertising. How much of it is aimed at and accessible to our children? They are not old enough to decide to put the poison carbon dioxide into their developing stomachs. Apparently sticking a tooth in a glass of Coca-Cola in science class is not enough to scare them off. Unattended soda machines should be available only in bars, if even there. Places that mainly serve children (e.g. Chuck E. Cheese)must have stringent new regulations. Oh, and a cut off after the 4th inning at Major/Minor League Baseball games. It will take time, but fabian anti carbon-dioxide beveragism will ultimately succeed.
52 posted on 05/12/2009 4:03:52 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: mazda77

What’s a caribou fart worth, nowadays.


53 posted on 05/12/2009 4:05:58 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: MarkL

That was an example. They haven’t said how high they want it. They hate poor people- that is who tends to be fat nowadays and they know it.


54 posted on 05/12/2009 4:07:32 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I shall call them Prez Arugula and Lady Armpit. It fits them.)
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To: Dahoser
Why not just tax our couches since parking our fat tuckuses on them is harming our health?

If couches had parking meters on them, We would be much more productive and more physically fit. I think you're on to something here...

55 posted on 05/12/2009 4:09:10 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Right on the mark. Wondering why there are 30 posts to the point of yours that didn’t ask that question.


56 posted on 05/12/2009 4:13:42 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Graybeard58

I agee; I’m opposed to nationalizing health care.


57 posted on 05/12/2009 4:16:02 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: RU88

I can quit fast food in a flash!


58 posted on 05/12/2009 4:17:09 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: MarkL

Excellent summary, Mark.


59 posted on 05/12/2009 4:17:18 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: PghBaldy

I can stop drinking soda. Goodbye Coke Zero my old friend.


60 posted on 05/12/2009 4:17:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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