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Alaska's Hubbard Glacier is advancing at the rate of seven feet per day!
Coeur d'Alene Press ^ | May 10, 2009 | Cliff Harris

Posted on 05/12/2009 1:13:57 AM PDT by neverdem

This past week, I received a literally astounding report from Yakutat, Alaska's city manager, Skip Ryman, forwarded to me by Kerri Thoreson, concerning the rapid advancement of the Hubbard Glacier towards Gilbert Point near Yakutat at the astonishing rate of two meters (seven feet) per day!

Skip gave me the Army Corp of Engineers special Web site for the Hubbard Glacier, (www.glacierresearch.com). On Tuesday, we pulled up some absolutely amazing photos of the advancing glacier in color. One can easily see the expanding wall of ice. It's HUGE!

Since the Corp of Engineers ordinarily protects and maintains possession of the scientific information they generate, it's certainly unusual for them to 'open up' like this. But, as Randy Mann and I have often said, these are days of Wide Weather 'EXTREMES'?

But, even the dedicated global warmists need to know the truth about the recent extended period of global cooling caused by our 'SILENT SUN.' So, if our readers try to access the site and fail, keep trying. It's perfectly legal and the Corp has set it up for public access.

As Skip says in his e-mail, "ignore the admonishment and continue to the site. The Corp can't 'turn off' the warning as it is part of their system. There will be no 'men in black' in black helicopters to spirit you away for just looking at this incredible site. I was literally 'blown away!'"

The Corp is involved because 'when' and 'if' the Hubbard Glacier eventually closes the Russell Fjord, the fjord will fill with fresh water, becoming a 30-mile-long lake creating a new 40,000-cubic-feet-per-second river system. This will have an extremely 'negative' economic impact on Yakutat and the surrounding regions. It's possible that at the shocking rate of seven feet per day in its advancement, the Hubbard Glacier could close the fjord by later this summer, or even prior to that time, if the current rate of advancement speeds up, say to perhaps 10 or 12 feet per day.

By carefully monitoring the Army Corp of Engineers Web site, we residents of North Idaho can be alerted to these type of events in 'real time' data presentations, not mere heresay.

It looks like an interesting summer ahead, weatherwise and otherwise. I'll have more glacial updates as they occur. Remember, we have THE RIGHT TO KNOW!

NORTH IDAHO WEATHER REVIEWS AND

LONG-RANGE UPDATES

Not only has our 'SILENT SUN,' almost completely devoid of sunspots, been at least partially responsible for the expanding glaciers in Alaska, Norway and elsewhere, but 'Ole Sol' is likewise, in my not-so-humble climatological opinion, to blame for our recent colder, snowier and wetter spring seasons in North Idaho and the surrounding Inland Empire.

There were a few snowflakes mixed in with the rain showers this Thursday morning, May 7, as temperatures fell into the chilly 30s early in the day as I wrote this weekly update.

Heavier snows -- up to six inches or more above 5,000 feet -- have accumulated in the nearby mountains on a daily basis since early May. It may be mid June or later before Glacier Park's 'Going-to-the-Sun Highway' opens. (Next week, we'll take a look at what's happening to the glaciers in the park. Are they also beginning to expand? Find out the truth in just seven days.)

As far as the local weather scene is concerned for the rest of May, I don't see any really warm weather developing for at least another 10 days despite a bit less shower activity across the Inland Northwest.

It's possible, however, that more typical afternoon highs in the 70s and lower 80s may arrive just in time for Memorial Day celebrations during the weekend of May 23-25. (It's early this year.) But, I don't see any readings locally in the summery 90s until at least early to mid June or later. Again, blame the 'Silent Sun.'

Longer-term, I'm still predicting a rather short but VERY HOT and DRY summer of 2009 in North Idaho.

The warmest weather should be sometime around the July 7-15 'full moon' cycle. It's possible that we will see an afternoon or two during this week with readings 'flirting' with the century mark, well above 'Sholeh' territory.

The weather for this August's North Idaho Fair and Rodeo looks great as long as the protective high pressure ridge over the region remains in place into the fourth week of the month as expected.

The fall of 2009 will be both WETTER and COOLER than in the past few years, hence a bit shorter summer season overall. I'll have more details next week.


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That's some serious global cooling.
1 posted on 05/12/2009 1:14:00 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

...I would have thought such rapid terminal advancement as this would be evidence of the Glacier melting...moving rapidly over meltwater.


2 posted on 05/12/2009 1:21:45 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: neverdem

Someone tell Sarah. She needs to ditch her McCainsian beleif in global warming ASAP


3 posted on 05/12/2009 1:23:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: neverdem

Gotta love the Gore-bull Warming, huh?


4 posted on 05/12/2009 1:32:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: neverdem
Ya mean it's that giant fusion reactor burning in the sky, and not cow farts/ SUVs that warm the earth....... huh......

Does Manbearpig know about this? How bout yer Bammy?

5 posted on 05/12/2009 1:36:11 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<P><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan 1:50</a>)
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To: americanophile
...I would have thought such rapid terminal advancement as this would be evidence of the Glacier melting...moving rapidly over meltwater.

You may be right. The science may mean this glacier is in fact melting and suffering from global warming. And the glaciers that are retreating? The science may mean that those glaciers are the ones suffering from global warming. The real problem is that today's "scientists" are like todays journalists, too lazy to support their default conclusions:

Hurricane in Louisiana? Bush's fault.

Increase or decrease in rainfall, snowfall, temperature? Global warming.

I'd like to see real analysis, but it's not going to come from the current generation of professionals in those fields. Your explanation could be true, as could a softening of the glacier's core that changes the viscosity or whatever they call the glacial equivalent, but scientists are supposed to need evidence, and they no longer bother.

6 posted on 05/12/2009 1:55:46 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: neverdem

Goodness, the people in Yakutat Ak must be concerned about it being so warm there. Gotta get Algore to come up and bring his swim trunks before that extra new layer of ice melts too fast and floods the town. Global warming, y’know. yuck,yuck, yuck.


7 posted on 05/12/2009 2:01:13 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: TurtleUp

No, not Bush’s fault. Karl Rove has the hurricane control machine.


8 posted on 05/12/2009 2:17:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: neverdem

I think glaciers move more quickly over meltwater. This increase in flow might be because it is melting.


9 posted on 05/12/2009 2:26:39 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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To: americanophile; TurtleUp

Look under Reports (http://www.glacierresearch.com/) at the slide presentation titled:

Monitoring Tidewater Terminus Dynamics Using Laser Ranging and Fixed Photography: Hubbard Glacier, Southeast Alaska

It definitely refers to ice accumulation in the glacier. It is not global warming that is causing the glacier to flow faster. It is ice accumulation.


10 posted on 05/12/2009 2:31:30 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: muir_redwoods

No. See my post at #10.


11 posted on 05/12/2009 2:32:33 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: Rocky
Ice accumulation? I think not - consider the scientific method:

1. The first step in the scientific method is to ask a question that you will do the experiment to solve.

2. The next step is to gather information, which you will use to make the hypothesis that Global Warming is the cause of the problem. You predict what you have already observed and attribute this effect to global climate change.

3. Next, you do the experiment, organize data to support your conclusion, etc.

4. After that, you state your conclusion, in which you answer your question and confirm that your hypothesis is correct - Global Warming is the problem.

5. Lastly, you report the results so that other people may admire your results as well as get the knowledge that you created before doing the experiment.

12 posted on 05/12/2009 2:40:14 AM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: neverdem
A new freshwater lake?

Maybe it will be big enough for Al Gore's 100 foot long houseboat.


13 posted on 05/12/2009 2:48:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were a clueless idiot, and suppose you were Barack Obama; but I repeat myself)
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To: pissant

What exactly are HER beliefs?


14 posted on 05/12/2009 3:19:40 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Karl is rumored to have been up in Alaska recently, and I know for a fact that he has a glacier speed control thingy that he keeps handy at all times.

He keeps it in his coat pocket, and you just know what he is doing when he reaches in there - he's destroying some other town with glacial meltwater. There is simply no limit to the man's perfidy.

15 posted on 05/12/2009 3:20:01 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ping


16 posted on 05/12/2009 3:30:51 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: neverdem
The "Glacier Research" site says "As an approach to examining the threat that Hubbard Glacier poses to the community of Yakutat Alaska..."

QUICK! Sell more SUVs! We need to warm the planet to save Yakutat! Worrying about Tulavu drowning under rising oceans is so '00s. We need to warm the plane to stop glaciers from overrunning native villages. Direct Action NOW!

17 posted on 05/12/2009 3:52:32 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

From my understanding, I suggest it is the overall weight of the glacier that causes it to melt at the earth surface, hence it will move depending on the slope that it is resting on....I suspect this is nothing new....


18 posted on 05/12/2009 4:03:10 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Rocky

Bingo!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!

LLS


19 posted on 05/12/2009 4:21:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: neverdem

At the research site - go to the Real Time Data
Set the number of days to display to 1100 or so
you’ll see a repeating wave. Advances then recedes annually.
Nothing different going on here - move along.


20 posted on 05/12/2009 4:26:55 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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